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    Is it just me or does someone on the writing team not like queer people? Doesn't happen very often since there aren't many LGBT NPCs in the MSQ, but it seems like any time they reveal a male character's definitely gay or bi it's to show how creepy he is. Japanese Haurchefant makes those weird comments to the WOL, most of the awful things we see Asahi do are to impress Zenos, and now there's that joke they added with Demetrius.
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    Considering Ryne and Gaia exist, I don't really think that at all.

    I also don't think they particularly say the characters are "definitely gay or bi" at all either- it's just written that it's plausible that they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Considering Ryne and Gaia exist, I don't really think that at all.

    I also don't think they particularly say the characters are "definitely gay or bi" at all either- it's just written that it's plausible that they are.
    It's something I've noticed with the men specifically. "Definitely" might be stretching it a little but I mean there's no other good explanation for why they act that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormChase View Post
    It's something I've noticed with the men specifically. "Definitely" might be stretching it a little but I mean there's no other good explanation for why they act that way.
    I think some villains are just written to be psychopaths, and their behavior speaks more to that than suggesting their sexuality. Some villains are just complete fanboys of the bigger villain and that's about all there is to it. I don't think either example was written as commentary on LGBT people.
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    I definitely think it's just you thinking something that's not really there to begin with.

    Obsessions like that don't have to be romantic-level at all, especially sycophantic-like followers that are exactly that toward their idols.
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    >> https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets <<

    Come on SE, more dyeable mogstore npc outfits and 60/70 alliance raid gear. Do them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I think some villains are just written to be psychopaths, and their behavior speaks more to that than suggesting their sexuality. Some villains are just complete fanboys of the bigger villain and that's about all there is to it. I don't think either example was written as commentary on LGBT people.
    Even if Demetrius doesn't say he's into Calyx I think it's clear what conclusion they want us to make when we find his locker. Whoever put it in probably wasn't intentionally trying to be homophobic but it's such a common trope that they might've not even noticed they were doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormChase View Post
    Even if Demetrius doesn't say he's into Calyx I think it's clear what conclusion they want us to make when we find his locker. Whoever put it in probably wasn't intentionally trying to be homophobic but it's such a common trope that they might've not even noticed they were doing it.
    Isn't Calyx supposed to have been very young? I forget his age but wasn't he a child prodigy? I would think we'd have more serious problems if we were supposed to reach this as romantic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Isn't Calyx supposed to have been very young? I forget his age but wasn't he a child prodigy? I would think we'd have more serious problems if we were supposed to reach this as romantic.
    I think that's part of the joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormChase View Post
    I think that's part of the joke.
    I think that's where we differ. I more view the relationship as idolatry - something we see in a lot of different media with similarly-written villains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I think that's where we differ. I more view the relationship as idolatry - something we see in a lot of different media with similarly-written villains.
    Same. The scene just struck me as the dude being a Calyx superfan.
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