Let's talk about physical range jobs

[RedLolly]

My understanding was MCH only got buffed because it's AOE was so poorly suited for A6S.

But, I fully agree that Machinist is designed as the "baby's first raid job" as it feels tailor made to fit PUGs. It will perform about the same in any fight in any party in competent hands. I freaking love the job fantasy of being a gadgeteer or artificer, so I play it, but the skill ceiling is actually really low.

That said, I really wish the devs would embrace phys. range as the DPS supporter jobs, but Machinist would need to be fully gutted and remade, and I don't know it the devs want to lose the niche they made for it.

[Raikai]

My understanding was MCH only got buffed because it's AOE was so poorly suited for A6S.

But, I fully agree that Machinist is designed as the "baby's first raid job" as it feels tailor made to fit PUGs. It will perform about the same in any fight in any party in competent hands. I freaking love the job fantasy of being a gadgeteer or artificer, so I play it, but the skill ceiling is actually really low.

That said, I really wish the devs would embrace phys. range as the DPS supporter jobs, but Machinist would need to be fully gutted and remade, and I don't know it the devs want to lose the niche they made for it.

It would be for the better... IDK if Machinist can exist in a healthy way being into a group where the other 2 outsource their rDPS also outside of the 2min meta. It would be either too good to bench the other two or too weak because how well the support aspect (Songs / Dance Partner) scales.

MCH could live as a damage + debuffer, which could be a niche also filled by a future rPhys, making a parallel with how the other 2 buff their allies (BRD whole party / DNC a single person, for more).