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    Thanks for the dev responses, but like I said, if other game developers can successfully propose contests that involve publicly submitting sensitive data such as a picture of your face taken from your Facebook account for a chance to win a very real prize (winners are selected by the devs), what exactly is halting YOUR contest? it doesn't seem NEARLY as delicate.

    I know that for example, language laws in Quebec will forbid the contest to take place if all the details concerning the rules, procedures and prize claims aren't also available in French (same goes for France, normally). I'm originally from Quebec, I live in Belgium now.

    The game isn't localized in Italian or Spanish, these players are pretty much forced to play in one or another of a select few languages they may not be familiar with, they obviously weren't your priority when you made the game, but they're allowed to participate? Come on.

    I can not believe for a single moment you people are doing your best to open up these contests to more countries. That's just not good enough and you're really looking for an easy excuse.

    Why don't you make contests for the smaller countries once in a while? I know it's just a low-level scarf, that's bessides the point. The point is that people outside of the big 4-5 european countries constantly get SHAFTED on contests like this, and no one ever seems to think it's a problem or wants to actually do anything about it.

    What do you want us to do? All move to France? Be serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzoum View Post
    I can not believe for a single moment you people are doing your best to open up these contests to more countries. That's just not good enough and you're really looking for an easy excuse.
    Why wouldn't Reps do their best to open up these contests to more countries? Just give a valid reason.

    Making a contest for 1, 10 or 100 countries takes exactly the same amount of workload (Reps wise), besides maybe having to review more entries to determine winners. I doubt that SE is so lazy to review entries that they would restrict these contests...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    Why wouldn't Reps do their best to open up these contests to more countries? Just give a valid reason.
    Oh I'm not blaming the reps, I'm blaming Squre-Enix and their legal department. Reps are relaying the information they get and do their best to do that both ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    Making a contest for 1, 10 or 100 countries takes exactly the same amount of workload (Reps wise), besides maybe having to review more entries to determine winners. I doubt that SE is so lazy to review entries that they would restrict these contests...
    No, their legal department is just lazy to investigate the laws in smaller countries. It's definitely possible to get a contest like this running in more than just Germany, France, U.K., Italy and Spain. It's often just a matter of wording the rules.

    The problem is that if you can manage appealing to these countries, you already have a big chunk of Europe off, and lawyers often feel the rest just isn't worth the hassle, it's too much legal costs for inefficient PR (too small audience), so they say "Sorry, we couldn't get it to work". I'm actually willing to bet that this contest is actually *viable* in a lot of other countries, but they just didn't apply for authorization.

    If Blizzard can do it, Square Enix can. Give me one good reason why they were able to satisfy all the legal requirements and Square Enix cannot.

    Once again, they're just acting like the only countries that count are the big ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzoum View Post
    It's definitely possible to get a contest like this running in more than just Germany, France, U.K., Italy and Spain. It's often just a matter of wording the rules.
    And it's not possible, out of 27 member states, for 2 of them to have mutually exclusive contest laws?

    You want to live in a federal "United States of Europe." You don't. That's something to write to your national legislators and MEPs about, not ranting on an MMO forum.

    If Blizzard can do it, Square Enix can. Give me one good reason why they were able to satisfy all the legal requirements and Square Enix cannot.
    Laws don't work in broad generalizations. I can't give you "one good reason" until you're able to provide a single, specific contest from Activision that you were able to participate in to compare to this single, specific contest from S-E.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    Laws don't work in broad generalizations. I can't give you "one good reason" until you're able to provide a single, specific contest from Activision that you were able to participate in to compare to this single, specific contest from S-E.
    Hero of the Day contest on the Diablo 3 reveal website. I mentioned it in a previous post:
    http://reveal.diablo3.com/en_EU/mark...or/#!/overview
    http://reveal.diablo3.com/en_EU/rules_mov

    If anything, their contest should have even more complications due to the fact submissions requires posting a picture of you representing a Diablo 3 class along with a banner you've customized on their site. Still, it's open to a huge number of countries (with some exclusions). So, yeah, I can imagine the "blame your retarded government for their laws, not Square Enix" argument does apply to a certain number of wonky countries, states or provinces, but clearly, it's not always the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzoum View Post
    Hero of the Day contest on the Diablo 3 reveal website. I mentioned it in a previous post:
    The most glaring difference is that the Diablo contest is for adults only. Minors are only allowed to enter if they are from a smaller subset of countries, and even then require a signed, written statement from a parent or legal guardian to participate.

    XIV players can be as young as 13 and no effort was made to discriminate based on age in S-E's contest beyond "we may email your parents." A 13 year-old in the UK isn't allowed to enter the Diablo contest at all.

    Pick your poison: exclude minors, or exclude Norse/Swiss/Brazilians/etc.
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