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    Yay \o/ an EU event!

    Entry is limited to residents of the UK, Germany, France, Italy and Spain. Entries received from residents of other European countries may appear on the official FINAL FANTASY XIV Forum thread for the contest but will NOT be eligible to win a prize.
    <- Belgium...



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    just a small question^^ what about austria? its not that different from germany but another country still haha
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    Thanks for the dev responses, but like I said, if other game developers can successfully propose contests that involve publicly submitting sensitive data such as a picture of your face taken from your Facebook account for a chance to win a very real prize (winners are selected by the devs), what exactly is halting YOUR contest? it doesn't seem NEARLY as delicate.

    I know that for example, language laws in Quebec will forbid the contest to take place if all the details concerning the rules, procedures and prize claims aren't also available in French (same goes for France, normally). I'm originally from Quebec, I live in Belgium now.

    The game isn't localized in Italian or Spanish, these players are pretty much forced to play in one or another of a select few languages they may not be familiar with, they obviously weren't your priority when you made the game, but they're allowed to participate? Come on.

    I can not believe for a single moment you people are doing your best to open up these contests to more countries. That's just not good enough and you're really looking for an easy excuse.

    Why don't you make contests for the smaller countries once in a while? I know it's just a low-level scarf, that's bessides the point. The point is that people outside of the big 4-5 european countries constantly get SHAFTED on contests like this, and no one ever seems to think it's a problem or wants to actually do anything about it.

    What do you want us to do? All move to France? Be serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzoum View Post
    I can not believe for a single moment you people are doing your best to open up these contests to more countries. That's just not good enough and you're really looking for an easy excuse.
    Why wouldn't Reps do their best to open up these contests to more countries? Just give a valid reason.

    Making a contest for 1, 10 or 100 countries takes exactly the same amount of workload (Reps wise), besides maybe having to review more entries to determine winners. I doubt that SE is so lazy to review entries that they would restrict these contests...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    Why wouldn't Reps do their best to open up these contests to more countries? Just give a valid reason.
    Oh I'm not blaming the reps, I'm blaming Squre-Enix and their legal department. Reps are relaying the information they get and do their best to do that both ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    Making a contest for 1, 10 or 100 countries takes exactly the same amount of workload (Reps wise), besides maybe having to review more entries to determine winners. I doubt that SE is so lazy to review entries that they would restrict these contests...
    No, their legal department is just lazy to investigate the laws in smaller countries. It's definitely possible to get a contest like this running in more than just Germany, France, U.K., Italy and Spain. It's often just a matter of wording the rules.

    The problem is that if you can manage appealing to these countries, you already have a big chunk of Europe off, and lawyers often feel the rest just isn't worth the hassle, it's too much legal costs for inefficient PR (too small audience), so they say "Sorry, we couldn't get it to work". I'm actually willing to bet that this contest is actually *viable* in a lot of other countries, but they just didn't apply for authorization.

    If Blizzard can do it, Square Enix can. Give me one good reason why they were able to satisfy all the legal requirements and Square Enix cannot.

    Once again, they're just acting like the only countries that count are the big ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzoum View Post
    It's definitely possible to get a contest like this running in more than just Germany, France, U.K., Italy and Spain. It's often just a matter of wording the rules.
    And it's not possible, out of 27 member states, for 2 of them to have mutually exclusive contest laws?

    You want to live in a federal "United States of Europe." You don't. That's something to write to your national legislators and MEPs about, not ranting on an MMO forum.

    If Blizzard can do it, Square Enix can. Give me one good reason why they were able to satisfy all the legal requirements and Square Enix cannot.
    Laws don't work in broad generalizations. I can't give you "one good reason" until you're able to provide a single, specific contest from Activision that you were able to participate in to compare to this single, specific contest from S-E.
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    Don't know why people insist on complaining every time there is a new event like this.
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    The European Union is not a single country. Each country has its own government, its own laws, and its own courts interpreting those laws. Contests are a topic that have a lot of laws written about them, in order to prevent a "contest" from becoming a "scam."

    Some countries may require a contest to be held in the local official language (to make it easier to catch a scam without a translator). Other countries may require a contest to be held only within its own borders (to prevent a "Nigerian International Lottery"). And how easy it is to hold a contest in two separate countries depends on how similar the laws in those two countries are.

    Even in the US, "nationwide" contests often exclude certain US states because of differences in state laws. Just try a web search for the phrase "offer not valid in" for examples.

    If you don't like the situation, write your national legislators. There's really not much more S-E can do.
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    Glad to see EU players getting a contest this time, best of luck to you all
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