FFXIV Dawntrail reviews are out on Metacritic

[Hallarem]

*looks at the latest Lucky Bancho numbers*

I dunno, they might slowly be transforming into the majority since the smarter ones realized what was going on and jumped ship when the game jumped the shark, lol. (I will still never forgive the writers for introducing the concept of Dynamis and the devs for turning Qufim island into a freakin' hallway...)

EW was the downhill trend in lore and worldbuilding for me, yeah. Including dynamis. 8.0 will be my final limit if they make another toothless msq that is too afraid to tackle any serious subjects and goes too blatantly shonen-anime writing.

[Dikatis]

EW was the downhill trend in lore and worldbuilding for me, yeah. Including dynamis. 8.0 will be my final limit if they make another toothless msq that is too afraid to tackle any serious subjects and goes too blatantly shonen-anime writing.

The Shonen Anime writing has been there since 1.0 and 2.0. Shadowbringers was loaded with it with literally everyone on the continent coming together to take down Vauthry by sheer force of the Scions' charisma and willingness to help others. You're just being pretentious.

[CaptainLagbeard]

The Shonen Anime writing has been there since 1.0 and 2.0. Shadowbringers was loaded with it with literally everyone on the continent coming together to take down Vauthry by sheer force of the Scions' charisma and willingness to help others. You're just being pretentious.

I wouldn't compare DT to a shounen anime, at least not direction... 7.0 and 7.1 was more like a 4kids dub, with the quest stuff from 90 to 95 being just a filler arc.

[Exmo]

Funny you mention this. I can't remember the last time I legit passed out while actively playing a game before. Sure, I've dozed while AFKing or getting distracted and just sort of "resting my eyes" but during the Pelupelu split I was so bored I actually fell asleep and had to be woken up by my friend yelling my name. She wasn't much better as I had to all but drag her to the finish line. We did still manage to finish DT in four days somehow, but... well, I'll quote her. "I would rather pay for the $30 skip than ever do Dawntrail again."

Why did you need to finish DT in four days? Obviously that was going to be a bad idea. You probably would have enjoyed it more if you had paced yourself properly

[Hallarem]

The Shonen Anime writing has been there since 1.0 and 2.0. Shadowbringers was loaded with it with literally everyone on the continent coming together to take down Vauthry by sheer force of the Scions' charisma and willingness to help others. You're just being pretentious.

Oh in ARR it was very much visible with the nyahahah ascians and Gaius and more, the english voice acting didnt help much, not that the japanese voices made it any better.
After that they clearly went with writing for more mature audiences, and it worked, does it have some anime fling to it? Yes. But it doesnt have that dumb anime melodrama most shonen and anime in general has, its more subtle and well handled. In EW with the boingo boing sound effects, nearly ruining Y'shtola with their magical girl and clumsy scenes, so far that Yoshi P had to directly stop them from doing it. And Dawntrail? Eesh.

Maybe shonen-anime is the wrong word. Childish writing that tries to hook you in with surface-level morals is what I'm going for. The writing in parts of EW is not subtle while some of it is great, the dialogue is Dawntrail is slop and so is the writing.

[Sani2341]

EW was the downhill trend in lore and worldbuilding for me, yeah. Including dynamis. 8.0 will be my final limit if they make another toothless msq that is too afraid to tackle any serious subjects and goes too blatantly shonen-anime writing.

Tbf, they are tackling serious subjects. It's just that it's been the same ones three times in a row with progressively worse story telling.

[Dikatis]

Oh in ARR it was very much visible with the nyahahah ascians and Gaius and more, the english voice acting didnt help much, not that the japanese voices made it any better.
After that they clearly went with writing for more mature audiences, and it worked, does it have some anime fling to it? Yes. But it doesnt have that dumb anime melodrama most shonen and anime in general has, its more subtle and well handled. In EW with the boingo boing sound effects, nearly ruining Y'shtola with their magical girl and clumsy scenes, so far that Yoshi P had to directly stop them from doing it. And Dawntrail? Eesh.

Maybe shonen-anime is the wrong word. Childish writing that tries to hook you in with surface-level morals is what I'm going for. The writing in parts of EW is not subtle while some of it is great, the dialogue is Dawntrail is slop and so is the writing.

I'm not afraid to say that they played it too safe with Dawntrail and that a solid of chunk of the writing can feel hackneyed at times. But Dawntrail's themes of facing grief and reality so you can face the future with the benefit of hindsight instead of retreating into escapism and forgetting the past is handled sincerely and passionately.

There's nothing wrong with disliking the story, but claiming it only has surface-level morals is doing it a disservice.

[Swordsman]

My biggest takeaway from that whole debacle was that the same people that vehemently defend that VA was quick to throw Susan under the bus for things that had nothing to do with the game. Oh well, this is the reality we live in. Hypocrisy is okay as long as you have a backing big enough to deflect the "haters"~!

Yeah this age we live in where people's personal moral opinions are injected into nearly every facet of life is certainly... something.

[Boblawblah]

Yeah this age we live in where people's personal moral opinions are injected into nearly every facet of life is certainly... something.

Oh, you mean like how Conservative American Christians are trying to outlaw porn?

[Supersnow845]

Why did you need to finish DT in four days? Obviously that was going to be a bad idea. You probably would have enjoyed it more if you had paced yourself properly

Reading a bad story slower doesn’t make it better