League levels of toxic behavour in game.

[BlisteringFrost]

i think they're just baiting at this point

Baiting? Nah. That would require planning, effort, and brain cells — three things I’ve got in short supply. I’m just pointing out contradictions and enjoying the absurdity. If that counts as “bait,” I guess the thread’s funnier than I thought. I mean, if pointing out contradictions counts as baiting, I guess I’m the Picasso of trolling.

Congratulations — you’ve officially overestimated my focus and effort.

I rest my case.

[Ardeth]

So I was behind and I did all the match raids and when I did M4 it made me quit for hours. I'm new. I've clearly never done it. I stated as much. Watched the cutscene. Have a returner flower. So when I died finally I died right after another. Yes, I suck. I'm a casual. I'm trying. But someone had to be toxic in my group. I'm not here for the sweaty Betty party. I don't care if I suck. I'm trying I'm learning, but it's cool to be a dick now so there that is.

Just to add to it. I don't know what happened or who is to blame, but ever since I've come back this game has been noticeably more toxic.

[MaikoRaines]

I rest my case.

Your entire argument, you didn't even use "ad hominem" correctly. Just to clarify, pointing out contradictions isn’t ad hominem. You never HAD a case.

I think we’ve exhausted the thought experiment. I’m off to actually play the game — good luck keeping up with your hypotheticals.

Oh, look here, that’s my stop (at least addressing you) — try not to trip over your own moonwalking arguments on the way out.

[MaikoRaines]

I don't know what happened or who is to blame, but ever since I've come back this game has been noticeably more toxic.

Furries. ERPers. The YPYT morons. Canada. The sky is the limit.

[BlisteringFrost]

Your entire argument, you didn't even use "ad hominem" correctly. Just to clarify, pointing out contradictions isn’t ad hominem. You never HAD a case.

I think we’ve exhausted the thought experiment. I’m off to actually play the game — good luck keeping up with your hypotheticals.

Oh, look here, that’s my stop (at least addressing you) — try not to trip over your own moonwalking arguments on the way out.

Okay. That's great.

[Stasya]

To any DPS player out there who pulls.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXIV/

[Burmecia]

pulling ahead of the tank is normal gameplay. turning off your stance and letting a player die on purpose is a reportable offense.

telling gm that was accident should muddle the water nicely

[theunhappypotato]

some tank players really baffle me sometimes lmao i cannot fathom why you'd get upset that someone pulls for you if you're too slow, seems like a skill issue to me

[BlisteringFrost]

some tank players really baffle me sometimes lmao i cannot fathom why you'd get upset that someone pulls for you if you're too slow, seems like a skill issue to me

There's multiple reasons why. That's why you ask if they can speed up a little bit first before assuming they're just being inept or something. Me personally? I'm only slow if I feel like I'm wearing weaker gear than I should have. Does it happen often? No. Maybe for a couple dungeon runs early on a new expansion. That's it. You ever tried protecting a tank with REALLY weak gear? it is NOT fun. Had to heal an Alexandria run with a tank who had the literal minimal possible item level to get in. And even with that they were STILL not using CD's either. Absolutely not fun. But if I'm having a run myself where I'm going a bit slower, it's literally as simple as just ask me if I'm willing to speed up. Otherwise you might accidently catch 5 Unfinal Stings to the face and I just type "Oh gosh I'm so sorry man, you really shouldn't have ran ahead of me like that!" in chat.

telling gm that was accident should muddle the water nicely

The GM's won't even ask you. They'll just pull you into Mordion Gaol if they think it was bad enough to warrant punishing you at all or not nowadays. And if it's a one off event.... no... they're absolutely not going to punish somebody for it. If it's consistently happening over multiple runs? Okay then maybe. They'll look into it either way.

[Kaen_Yume]

If I'm a dps and a tank in a lvl 70+ dungeon is going one pack at a time, I'll usually pull a pack and dash into them so they can grab aggro back. I take minimal to damage every time. (But I got yelled at by a wall of macro text funnily enough). If they have a problem with it I'll begrudgingly stop. Begrudgingly because its a lvl 70+ dungeon and I feel as if the tank should know to double pull at that point, or maybe even at 60+. And also as someone said, it takes 1 button to take aggro back.

If I'm tanking and a healer/dps pulls ahead, all power to them. Didn't even need the aggro buff to x aoe tank skill back then. Bluntly but politely, y'all need to get good. You don't need a PhD in tanking to double pull or take aggro back.

If you're learning and someone's being rude, up theirs. If you're not learning and someone's being rude, up theirs anyways. But also learn to take advice in a critical way. It feels good to get better at a game and help others get better in return.