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  1. #71
    Player
    Krojack's Avatar
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    It's perfectly fine for the casual content that it's made for.

    I literally know people that play this game all the time and still struggle with new content like the new dungeon and trial.

    People need to stop trying to build casual content around THEIR skill level and look at the big picture and how so many peoples skill level varies.
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  2. #72
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    SigHoshi's Avatar
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    Sig Hoshi
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    I liked the MSQ dungeon and appreciated that they tried something unique for the second boss. It's important to me that MSQ dungeons are used effectively as a storytelling vehicle, and this one felt successful in that regard for me. Unfortunately, that means its appeal falls off after the first run.

    Perhaps a way to make repeated casual content more engaging is to reward good individual play with a special currency, which could be traded for dungeon drops or tomes. This feels like a more robust approach than finding the "right difficulty." I'm imagining something similar to the bonus points in the Blue Mage Masked Carnival. Every time a player uses a mit or an interrupt, they get some points. Avoiding vuln stacks could be another. Other examples could include successful DPS rotation combos, just-in-time heals, or keeping DoTs up. Giving a small reward for individual performance might keep some players more engaged on each run.
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  3. #73
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    Atma's Avatar
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    Shiari Eventide
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Honestly the simplest answer is to simply create a toggle-able "epic hero" mode that gives you x many free deaths and just call it a day.

    It's a trust. It doesn't impact the difficulty level for party play at all. Let the people who are only here for the MSQ enjoy the MSQ. It has no bearing on anyone else's enjoyment of the game if the experience designed for purely solo play is reduced to easy mode. You don't even need to remove gear rewards, no one's experience is being 'ruined' by people getting free 745 gear when we've had 750 gear available for what, 4 months for people collecting tomestones?

    If you feel like your experience is being cheapened because people can just progress through an MSQ dungeon without 'gitting gud' then I don't know what to tell you. You're probably a joy at parties. I mean I have a surprise for you - you can get waxed several times 'for free' during duty support for the trial.
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  4. #74
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    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    Casual content should not be so easy that you can close your eyes and get through it. There should be SOME friction.
    Absolutely! As long as I'm the one who gets the define "friction." /s

    Seriously, though, that's the problem with content intended for the entire playerbase, yes? The MSQ is the one thing all players must needs contend with (the unicorn, just-here-to-play-Mahjong players not withstanding, etc.).
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  5. #75
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    SkankyRoe's Avatar
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    Cinnamon Whisky
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    Square, stop giving us boring fights where after the first run, it becomes just a slog to continue going through. The second boss of the new dungeon had me kind of excited because I heard so much about the "1v1" but it had like 2 telegraphed mechanics and required some job actions from healers and tanks. Literally nothing to it.

    If you are going to keep pushing content out like this, at least give the option of a harder difficulty. I'm tired of falling asleep in my roulettes.
    You should just quit this game and go play FromSoft games instead.
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    Last edited by SkankyRoe; 08-14-2025 at 12:17 PM.
    I look just like the roes next door... if you happen to live next door to an amusement park.

  6. #76
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    Altina_Orion's Avatar
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    Altina Orion
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SkankyRoe View Post
    You should just quit this game and go play FromSoft games instead.
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  7. #77
    Player BlisteringFrost's Avatar
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    Blistering Frost
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    Maduin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
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    Dawg like, it's always Roegadyns for some reason lmao
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  8. #78
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    Qyoon's Avatar
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    Maelys Gyoji
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by tsuchii View Post
    I DEMAND ALL MY MSQ DUNGEONS TO BE AT LEAST EXTREME LEVEL! *flips my bangs*
    WHERE IS THE MANAGER???
    Ok Karen, come here a second you forgot you meds. (joking obviously)
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  9. #79
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    AlienDiplomat's Avatar
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    Irae Tsukatsi
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    Square, stop giving us boring fights where after the first run, it becomes just a slog to continue going through.
    I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about is even possible. By the nature of discovery, ANYTHING they add mechanically, once you know how it works, will be muscle memory after you demystify the initial unknowns. What sort of mechanics are you suggesting they add that would overcome this? Do you mean totally randomizing the boss encounters so they never do the same moves twice?
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  10. #80
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    All of the fights seemed a little quick.

    Which I didn't mind.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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