The new dungeon is still ENTIRELY too easy

[Krojack]

It's perfectly fine for the casual content that it's made for.

I literally know people that play this game all the time and still struggle with new content like the new dungeon and trial.

People need to stop trying to build casual content around THEIR skill level and look at the big picture and how so many peoples skill level varies.

[SigHoshi]

I liked the MSQ dungeon and appreciated that they tried something unique for the second boss. It's important to me that MSQ dungeons are used effectively as a storytelling vehicle, and this one felt successful in that regard for me. Unfortunately, that means its appeal falls off after the first run.

Perhaps a way to make repeated casual content more engaging is to reward good individual play with a special currency, which could be traded for dungeon drops or tomes. This feels like a more robust approach than finding the "right difficulty." I'm imagining something similar to the bonus points in the Blue Mage Masked Carnival. Every time a player uses a mit or an interrupt, they get some points. Avoiding vuln stacks could be another. Other examples could include successful DPS rotation combos, just-in-time heals, or keeping DoTs up. Giving a small reward for individual performance might keep some players more engaged on each run.

[Atma]

Honestly the simplest answer is to simply create a toggle-able "epic hero" mode that gives you x many free deaths and just call it a day.

It's a trust. It doesn't impact the difficulty level for party play at all. Let the people who are only here for the MSQ enjoy the MSQ. It has no bearing on anyone else's enjoyment of the game if the experience designed for purely solo play is reduced to easy mode. You don't even need to remove gear rewards, no one's experience is being 'ruined' by people getting free 745 gear when we've had 750 gear available for what, 4 months for people collecting tomestones?

If you feel like your experience is being cheapened because people can just progress through an MSQ dungeon without 'gitting gud' then I don't know what to tell you. You're probably a joy at parties. I mean I have a surprise for you - you can get waxed several times 'for free' during duty support for the trial.

[SkankyRoe]

Square, stop giving us boring fights where after the first run, it becomes just a slog to continue going through. The second boss of the new dungeon had me kind of excited because I heard so much about the "1v1" but it had like 2 telegraphed mechanics and required some job actions from healers and tanks. Literally nothing to it.

If you are going to keep pushing content out like this, at least give the option of a harder difficulty. I'm tired of falling asleep in my roulettes.

You should just quit this game and go play FromSoft games instead.

[Altina_Orion]

You should just quit this game and go play FromSoft games instead.

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[BlisteringFrost]

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Dawg like, it's always Roegadyns for some reason lmao

[SkankyRoe]

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Yanno, FromSoft games. That Dark Eldenborne Blood Souls Ring stuff.

Dawg like, it's always Roegadyns for some reason lmao

Silly, I'm not a Roegadyn I'm an Ixal. Also me and Alti are buddies.

[AlienDiplomat]

Square, stop giving us boring fights where after the first run, it becomes just a slog to continue going through.

I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about is even possible. By the nature of discovery, ANYTHING they add mechanically, once you know how it works, will be muscle memory after you demystify the initial unknowns. What sort of mechanics are you suggesting they add that would overcome this? Do you mean totally randomizing the boss encounters so they never do the same moves twice?

[PyurBlue]

I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about is even possible. By the nature of discovery, ANYTHING they add mechanically, once you know how it works, will be muscle memory after you demystify the initial unknowns. What sort of mechanics are you suggesting they add that would overcome this? Do you mean totally randomizing the boss encounters so they never do the same moves twice?

I'd love more randomization personally. It doesn't have to be to the point where the boss literally never does the same thing twice, but I shouldn't be able to memorize the fights. Give bosses larger abilities pools and let them choose which to use and what order. Make mobs meaningfully different from one another and place them randomly between the bosses. Multiple dungeon paths would be nice too.

[Atma]

I'd love more randomization personally. It doesn't have to be to the point where the boss literally never does the same thing twice, but I shouldn't be able to memorize the fights. Give bosses larger abilities pools and let them choose which to use and what order. Make mobs meaningfully different from one another and place them randomly between the bosses. Multiple dungeon paths would be nice too.

This will require a revamp to healers (which is fine, and desperately needed anyway), but it does create a problem with the stated design goals of not wanting to make healers the absolute lynchpin of completing content. I 100% agree with you though, everything in this game needs more randomization and less script. And healers need to be healing, not playing DPS bots.