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    0blivion's Avatar
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    G'raha Tinya
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Dungeon was piss easy, and actively harder with trusts because of how ass they are in the DPS department. To those who pretend you don't have to scrape people off the floor: you very much do. I can be on any dps job with raise on it, and I still have to scrape people off the floor in the entire dungeon. If I'm a healer, I sometimes see both DPS die to random garbage on the first mechanic, it's just kinda... bad. The dungeons aren't hard, but these are the same people who died to not-Alexander at the end of the Twinning, or the same people who failed the ATE in Seat of Sacrifice. Catering to people who play worse than actual children is impossible.

    While trusts will be making the dungeons a slog, people who wanna have their hand held can follow Wuk Lamat or something - don't like that it takes 30min? Guess what, neither do the players that you would otherwise be matched up with. Suck it up.
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    miraidensetsu's Avatar
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    Luno Belfi
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Now try doing this dungeon at min ilvl and entering alone at Duty Finder.

    It surely will be a bit harder than when you did with your raiding BiS gear and your static/FC full of savage farmers.

    Bonus points if you play as healer and face a tank that thinks that tanking cds is for the weak.
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    Altina Orion
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    Now try doing this dungeon at min ilvl and entering alone at Duty Finder.

    It surely will be a bit harder than when you did with your raiding BiS gear and your static/FC full of savage farmers.

    Bonus points if you play as healer and face a tank that thinks that tanking cds is for the weak.
    Seriously? It seems like you don't know how ilvl works. Things will hit harder and take longer to kill, but if you just do the mechs its actually exactly the same difficulty. In savage, it matters a bit more because of the enrage. You could just dodge mechs for 30 minutes straight in a casual duty and never be punished for it.
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    Last edited by Altina_Orion; 08-14-2025 at 02:37 AM.

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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    Dungeon was piss easy, and actively harder with trusts because of how ass they are in the DPS department. To those who pretend you don't have to scrape people off the floor: you very much do. I can be on any dps job with raise on it, and I still have to scrape people off the floor in the entire dungeon. If I'm a healer, I sometimes see both DPS die to random garbage on the first mechanic, it's just kinda... bad. The dungeons aren't hard, but these are the same people who died to not-Alexander at the end of the Twinning, or the same people who failed the ATE in Seat of Sacrifice. Catering to people who play worse than actual children is impossible.

    While trusts will be making the dungeons a slog, people who wanna have their hand held can follow Wuk Lamat or something - don't like that it takes 30min? Guess what, neither do the players that you would otherwise be matched up with. Suck it up.
    It's a different game, but I can't help but think about the new 1 button rotation option in WoW that is supposed to be sub-optimal because it doesn't do any oGCDs or timed bursts or synergies buffs or any of the things that ought to make someone do better damage..... and yet, by the averages. the players using the 1 button rotation are performing better than 75% of those who aren't using it. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA6g...llularWarcraft

    What that tells you is that the majority of casual players in an MMO is so bad that even forcing them into the most basic rotation is making them do better than those who are totally freestyling it, and not even the best players are able to outweigh the bad in aggregate in the non OBR group.
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