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  1. #41
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    Gokki's Avatar
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    Gokki Di
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    I have trouble this tier due to all the flashing and colors, it's hard to concentrate. For example, during the M5S part where we have to go in and out constantly, i just lose focus and sometimes die because, with all the flashing and colors, i lose track of what is what.



    it's also impossible to play and see anyone else's spell effects so i have to turn them off, which sucks.
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  2. #42
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    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
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    Mother Vain
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    Gilgamesh
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gokki View Post
    I have trouble this tier due to all the flashing and colors, it's hard to concentrate. For example, during the M5S part where we have to go in and out constantly, i just lose focus and sometimes die because, with all the flashing and colors, i lose track of what is what.

    it's also impossible to play and see anyone else's spell effects so i have to turn them off, which sucks.
    Exactly this. It's been painful, especially with someone with epilepsy.
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  3. #43
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    Jessa Marko
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    Quote Originally Posted by VioletArrows View Post
    Finally got around to doing Underkeep last night and I think this might be where I finally just stop playing. I literally had to force quit out of the game when I was expected to immediately do the trial afterward (couldn't anyway bc ilvl, but it left me zoomed in on the bright flashing summoning circle) because the resulting migraine and nausea were so bad I couldn't stay in my chair. I had to turn all the lights in my room off, lie down, and wait for the episode to pass. I can't go back in there to farm it, so it's going to take forever to get the gear to do the trial, which is likely going to be just as dangerous for me to do.

    The overwhelm is so bad now, I dread doing any kind of group content.I fudged Heritage Found by keeping the camera pointed at the ground or just skipping the area when I could, but dungeons and trials (godsdamn I hate trials so much) are mandatory and require me to somehow look in every direction at once with everything strobing in a demand for attention, even with other players' effect off. I got violently sick trying to farm Vanguard (the point where EW's augment gear needs upgrading) a few months ago and can't go in there anymore. Basically, anything lightning themed from this expansion is the biggest trigger. I don't know what to do anymore.
    The trials are my worst problem because there's no way round inconveniencing other people. In DT I have simply got into the habit of apologizing at load-in that I will not be able to look at my screen for significant portions of the fight, and will thus likely die.
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  4. #44
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    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    to be fair I just feel it isn't going to get better I personally don't mind them but sometime I just feel there is to much of it. like some move to have them sure thing but that much I don't know it doesn't add to much to the fight in itself other then flash. or maybe it's the new mech try to not be blinded to see what the boss will do?
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  5. #45
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    Enceladus Orbilander
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    I wonder if this isn't why I struggled with EX4. By the time I was hitting bloom 4, I was just 'tuning out' all visual queues. It became impossible to 'see' the near far markers. It's like they were invisible.
    I do find them fights 'intensely' visually 'overwhelming'. I can feel myself tunning everything out and going fight blind, after about 45 minutes.
    I assumed it was just I was new to Exs and found it stressful.
    Ex3 made me start grinding my teeth, and I've only just many months later mostly but not totally stopped. (I dont think Ex3 was very flashy. I found platforms scary. Gave me vertigo. Not kidding. Or maybe it was flashy and I was tunning it out.)
    Also far too much is tuned for colour blind.
    So many pink/purple/pink/purple. I can think of so many fights.
    It is really hard to 'appreciate' if you are not tuned/trained to it because your not color blind.
    Why is it this way?
    Because XIV development is tuned to the absolute minimum effort/work possible.
    Why design it in full color and implement 'proper' color blind accessibility and contrast features. When you can just quietly drop those features and design everything to be 'color blind compatible and high contras in the first place.
    SE don't get any benefit of the doubt anymore. It's all about the most efficient least effort possible.
    I remember that from thread from a while back
    Something like "blizzard games are developed with HR in room. Square Enix games are developed with accountants in the room"

    I use full effects in self only. Limited on party.

    But it's not going to change.

    What ever happened to amazing fight design like Alpha 3.0 normal.
    SB alliance raids.
    These weren't boring.
    They weren't overly flashy.
    I blame the paladin changes. That's when am the other jobs needed to do have over the top animations.
    I also blame add-ons. Those were probably the inspiration for paladin.
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 05-12-2025 at 05:44 PM.

  6. #46
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    Astronis Smythe
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    I wonder if this isn't why I struggled with EX4. By the time I was hitting bloom 4, I was just 'tuning out' all visual queues. It became impossible to 'see' the near far markers. It's like they were invisible.
    EX4 is particularly bad with the bright flashing. Someone suggested the colorblind accessibility filters and the Deuteranopia setting helped desaturate EX4 enough so that I could play it without having to take drastic measures during certain casts. SE also adjusted the ground rose effects so they are much easier to read. It's all still too flashy but at least with the colorblind filter it doesn't go so far to make me sick.
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  7. #47
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    Ankhira Autumnsong
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    Zodiark
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    Sorry to bump this again, but I really want to highlight how visually overwhelming some of the newer fights this expansion are, like the new Alliance Raid now...

    I’m not talking about difficulty, it’s the amount of effects, colors, and visual noise happening all at once. It’s overstimulating to the point where it’s hard to focus or even enjoy the fight. I genuinely hope this kind of feedback reaches the devs eventually
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  8. #48
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    Xylha Clarystella
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ankhira View Post
    Sorry to bump this again, but I really want to highlight how visually overwhelming some of the newer fights this expansion are, like the new Alliance Raid now...

    I’m not talking about difficulty, it’s the amount of effects, colors, and visual noise happening all at once. It’s overstimulating to the point where it’s hard to focus or even enjoy the fight. I genuinely hope this kind of feedback reaches the devs eventually
    Don't feel sorry for bumping again. This has been a problem since DT's launch that has gone completely unaddressed. I had the same problem as someone earlier in the thread with Vanguard where running through it made me sick to my stomach. The amount of content I can feasibly do is getting narrower with each patch - I barely scraped through the first Arcadion tier and haven't bothered with the second. Everything I've heard about the new alliance raid is worse than the first one, where I spent most of it on the floor hoping the fights would just be over.

    The more people talk about it, the more chance there is that the devs might actually address it. That's the hope, anyway.
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  9. #49
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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    Also far too much is tuned for colour blind.
    So many pink/purple/pink/purple. I can think of so many fights.
    The fun thing is they dont care about color blindness at all, if they would they wouldnt use your described color pattern.
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  10. #50
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    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    The fun thing is they dont care about color blindness at all...
    Might I suggest you provide examples of mechanics where color is the only thing for players to rely on?

    While currently having no color-blindness issues of my own, I do have a passing curiosity/interest in seeing how {software} deals with it. (Because, my own eyesight isn't exactly perfect and is almost certainly going to get worse with time...)
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