Mouse/Keyboard vs. Controller: Your Thoughts

[Enfarious]

Fair point, but let's take this scenario:
I wish to switch from Cure (ALT-5) to Cura (CTRL-5) when I see my little tank has gotten hit very badly unexpectedly.
For me, I just right away release ALT and press CTRL and then 5. This is a very fast action. Is it possible to do that fast on controller?

Note: Not saying one is better than the other, and I'm sure its very situational and how used to each you are. I could never use a controller as I am not used to it ^.^;

Although I think we ALL have to agree that if you want to chat ALL the time, then keyboard is the best? (Hard to imagine putting down controller and typing out sentences then picking up controller).

I own a TS server, and have the means to also run Mumble and Vent servers, if I want to talk to people that bad I'm not doing it in type anyway since you still have to stop acting even if your a pure kbd player, once you start typing you can't do anything else, I can still press buttons on my controller mid sentence. If I'm standing in town then it doesn't matter, if I'm in heated battle content none of us are that worried about chat beyond 1~3 words that I can just as easily type with one hand, but again it doesn't matter I have to stop to chat, but so do you.

And this:

Actually putting down the controller to type is hardly an issue. I can always find a spot to put it down quickly and start typing, I actually don't even think about doing it anymore, it just happens.

Going from ALT to CTRL on a controller is, depending on your setup, going from hitting LT to hitting RT. Very simple.

My gaming rig is in my living room, I can't see why I'd play on a 26" screen when I can play on 50 while watching a movie if things are slow moving(crafting/gathering/lfp), dropping a controller in my lap and wailing on the kbd that's already in my lap isn't really a very long stretch.

Yep it is just a matter of LT or RT for CTRL and ALT, so yes I can just as quickly switch from 1 macro page to the other, what's more is, if cure is on 1 and cura is on 2 on the action bar that extra press isn't gonna take so long that the person would die, unless they were gonna die no matter what.

The which one is better thing can be broken down as many ways as we all want, the facts remain:
Thumb presses in a quarter sized area take less time than multi finger presses over 15x the area
Recasts will always slow both sides down, you just can't get around them
Input lag hurts us all, w/o it controllers will be faster too
If the job gets done and done well who gives a shit what your using to play

Chances are if you've been in a number of parties you've spent some time with people from both sides and chances are you couldn't tell one from the other unless you asked, or already knew their preference. I've been asked about my keybinds because of the efficiency that I move/WS when I say "Umm... I use a PS3 controller." people tend to ask how, they don't say, "Oh forget it your not on par with us kbd players, now that I'm looking more closely, yeah you did terrible in that fight, hang on I'll show you the number of times you missed(cause my controller makes that happen), yeah you had awesome DPS(or noone died w/ you healing) but it was all so slow and inefficient."

[Krausus]

Fair point, but let's take this scenario:
I wish to switch from Cure (ALT-5) to Cura (CTRL-5) when I see my little tank has gotten hit very badly unexpectedly.
For me, I just right away release ALT and press CTRL and then 5. This is a very fast action. Is it possible to do that fast on controller?

Note: Not saying one is better than the other, and I'm sure its very situational and how used to each you are. I could never use a controller as I am not used to it ^.^;

Although I think we ALL have to agree that if you want to chat ALL the time, then keyboard is the best? (Hard to imagine putting down controller and typing out sentences then picking up controller).

if you already have your target targeted (which your scenario implies) then yes *cancel* *move* *confirm x2* most healers will have cure and cura next to each other so its 4 very fast pressed actions I have gotten very fast with a controller myself. I also very rarely use cure I tend to wait until the tank needs a cura, it gives more time in between cures to regen MP. the exception is if the tank needs a heal while cura is on cooldown which isn't very often. I also set my hotbars up for controller use so that I'm not having to move to many spaces for my most used abilities, I utilize left right and up and down and if an ability is on the 1 slot and the next ability I need to use is on the 10 spot i move left instead of right to get to it quickly.

[Firon]

Man this thread remind of me people from the FGC(Fighting Game Community) Telling people @ one point your holding your self back using a controller then they proceeded to loose to the person who plays on pad =/

[Dragon]

Man this thread remind of me people from the FGC(Fighting Game Community) Telling people @ one point your holding your self back using a controller then they proceeded to loose to the person who plays on pad =/

Wait a moment... playing a fighting game on a keyboard? Am I getting this right?

Of all the games a keyboard/mouse enhances, I would never even consider playing a "fighting game" with a keyboard/mouse.

[Enfarious]

Man this thread remind of me people from the FGC(Fighting Game Community) Telling people @ one point your holding your self back using a controller then they proceeded to loose to the person who plays on pad =/

Those were good times

Wait a moment... playing a fighting game on a keyboard? Am I getting this right?

Of all the games a keyboard/mouse enhances, I would never even consider playing a "fighting game" with a keyboard/mouse.

I believe the arguments then were joystick vs. gamepad
Edit: I know that's what they were, I mean I believe that's what Firon was driving at.

[Firon]

Those were good times


I believe the arguments then were joystick vs. gamepad
Edit: I know that's what they were, I mean I believe that's what Firon was driving at.

Yeah that's what i meant.

[Molly_Millions]

Off Topic a bit, but the only reason to use a joystick in a fighting game is authenticity. It's possible to be awesome at either one. I think the same can be said for kb/mouse vs controller. I know of some awesome players in each camp.

[Zell]

http://www.logitech.com/keyboards/keyboard/devices/5123


and

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming...os/devices/724


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Happy MMO gamer.... ( i use them in all mmos i play and I have a blast) (Thumbstick for movement while freeing all other fingers for keybinds? Priceless!). Even though you can't keybind everything in FFXIV, you can using the G13 software. Whatever default key the game uses for an ability, action or menu, I can bind that key to the gamepad.....

[Molly_Millions]

ew! Logitech. >.<

I use these:

Steelseries Merc Stealth

Razer Death Adder

[TehDon]

I use keyboard/mouse when doing anything where my timing has to be precise. When gathering, crafting, and traveling I use my ps3 controller via the motionjoy drivers and a cheap bluetooth adapter.