League levels of toxic behavour in game.

[BunnyBrat]

As a dps my main issue is with tanks and healers. Tanks that randomly stop and sit for several seconds without doing or saying anything, pretending to get lost by running into a dead end and jumping as if a door would magically appear, running behind everyone else for no reason etc etc. Then there are the healers that won't heal anyone until we're all near death and no these aren't new healers. They are doing it tobget a response, the same with those tanks. And this was not my experience when I first joined the game, but also I see that I might have been spoiled because I was on Aether for a year before moving to dynamis. But even when yhings got bad there was always communication and not this weird whatever tf I'm experiencing now.

[Rainfallen]

Most healers will let their tanks drop to 20% so they don't feel like they are wasting their big heal on someone who still has half health.

20% is generous for me, I like to play "how low can you go" before I throw a heal their way unless they're obviously a newer/less experienced tank. Then I let them drop to 30%... ish

[Rainfallen]

Then there are the healers that won't heal anyone until we're all near death and no these aren't new healers. They are doing it to get a response.

Using bigger heals if you're not below 50% health is kinda just... a waste. Healer damage also matters in duties, not just a DPS's to clear or make a fight go much faster. Why should I be over-healing when you have stuff in your OWN kit to restore your hp? I'm not going to blow my big heals on you or use a Lustrate on you if you're above 50% hp unless I know a gnarly raidwide will occur that can drop you do 0%. You're fine at 30%, quit whining and making drama about it, it's NOT a big deal.

I see your class says dnc. DNC has 3 different healing tools they can utilize: Second Wind, Curing Waltz, and Improvisation. You're complaining us healers aren't using our healing tools? May want to look in a mirror, because DNC is a heavily supportive job with its kit. It's one of my main DPS, I've raided on it, so I do know what I'm talking about with it. Its kit is built to support the party.

Except for Black Mage, every job has at least one basic skill they can use to restore their own HP, but I fear DPS choose not to realise this and thus blame the healers for "bad healing" while never pressing a singular button they've been given to help themselves AND ultimately their healers out.

[BunnyBrat]

Using bigger heals if you're not below 50% health is kinda just... a waste. Healer damage also matters in duties, not just a DPS's to clear or make a fight go much faster. Why should I be over-healing when you have stuff in your OWN kit to restore your hp? I'm not going to blow my big heals on you or use a Lustrate on you if you're above 50% hp unless I know a gnarly raidwide will occur that can drop you do 0%. You're fine at 30%, quit whining and making drama about it, it's NOT a big deal.

I see your class says dnc. DNC has 3 different healing tools they can utilize: Second Wind, Curing Waltz, and Improvisation. You're complaining us healers aren't using our healing tools? May want to look in a mirror, because DNC is a heavily supportive job with its kit. It's one of my main DPS, I've raided on it, so I do know what I'm talking about with it. Its kit is built to support the party.

Except for Black Mage, every job has at least one basic skill they can use to restore their own HP, but I fear DPS choose not to realise this and thus blame the healers for "bad healing" while never pressing a singular button they've been given to help themselves AND ultimately their healers out.

I've been playing picto for a while. And um even when we're near death they will heal only a little, so we for sure will die if we make a mistake.

I'm talking about trolls. I know, I mention healer and you think I'm talking about all healers which includes you. And you insult me because you think I don't know what I'm talking about when what I'm saying is quite clear.

Do I have to explain that everyone is using any recovery abilities they have at their disposal? Would you, as a healer, seeing that your other three teammates are low because of raidwides and dots would wait until almost everyone is dead before healing minimally? Or better yet not even bothering to esuna anyone?

How much information do you need before you decide I'm not some lowly peon who dare speaketh ill of any healer?

[Asari5]

Using bigger heals if you're not below 50% health is kinda just... a waste. Healer damage also matters in duties, not just a DPS's to clear or make a fight go much faster. Why should I be over-healing when you have stuff in your OWN kit to restore your hp? I'm not going to blow my big heals on you or use a Lustrate on you if you're above 50% hp unless I know a gnarly raidwide will occur that can drop you do 0%. You're fine at 30%, quit whining and making drama about it, it's NOT a big deal.

I see your class says dnc. DNC has 3 different healing tools they can utilize: Second Wind, Curing Waltz, and Improvisation. You're complaining us healers aren't using our healing tools? May want to look in a mirror, because DNC is a heavily supportive job with its kit. It's one of my main DPS, I've raided on it, so I do know what I'm talking about with it. Its kit is built to support the party.

Except for Black Mage, every job has at least one basic skill they can use to restore their own HP, but I fear DPS choose not to realise this and thus blame the healers for "bad healing" while never pressing a singular button they've been given to help themselves AND ultimately their healers out.

dps is the role without responsibilities. you cant expect so much of these poor people full with anxiety. dont ever talk about how much dps people do and do not expect anything like mitigation or selfheals because their role is to do dps.... xD

[Rainfallen]

dps is the role without responsibilities. you cant expect so much of these poor people full with anxiety. dont ever talk about how much dps people do and do not expect more because their role is to do dps.... xD

I just about spat my drink, my gods XD
Sadly... all too true. I've met many a DPS that whines about "BUT I'M DOING DAMAGE WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT".... and it's like "more than the bare minimum, please, you have mits like I do... can you use them??"

[BunnyBrat]

dps is the role without responsibilities. you cant expect so much of these poor people full with anxiety. dont ever talk about how much dps people do and do not expect more because their role is to do dps.... xD

Girl what? Where is this even coming from? Oh you're toxic. Got it.

[Midare]

Girl what? Where is this even coming from? Oh you're toxic. Got it.

But... it's objectively true? We really have no responsibility other than ensuring the health bars go down and not standing on the bad, and the majority can't be bothered with the latter because "muh uptime"
And I'm saying this as someone who does all 3 roles fairly consistently, with a slight inclination to maining dps in this and in the past, another MMO.

[sagacious]

I don't understand all the stress, as a healer main I don't worry about dps's running ahead, I just focus on keeping my tank up, if dps die, oh well they'l eventually learn they are not tanks. Tanks, why are you running after dps's? let them tank and die then laugh. This reminds me of the time I was tanking as a War and the dps ran ahead and killed all the crap in front of us and I thought, kool I dont need to tank and relaxed. Gosh that dps was good.

[velkettin]

Oh yeah, especially lately when I'm on my alt who's a paladin and still has the sprout. I dunno if they think I'm not gonna run or what. I pop sprint, they zoom ahead of me, grab it all and run off to Narnia. It's not a big deal when I catch up but they're on their own until I'm in ranged attack or AoE range. She doesn't have gap close yet since she's only in the 50s.

Had a mch in Dzemael that wouldn't let me get aggro on almost anything on that first big mega pull. He managed to survive until the boss door room but it was a close thing, lol. Also had a sge in Halatali HM that went running up to the bridge area before I was even at the mobs at the bottom near that chain there. Then they dropped down through a gap in the wall that I ran past cause I wasn't expecting that so I had to find the next gap and get down to them. They were a sge so they were fine but there are definitely a lot of impatient people who will move ahead even when you're already sprinting and wall-pulling.

It doesn't really bother me. I catch up when I get there, It would be nice for mob management if they would bring them back, though. It can throw the positioning off so some classes AoEs aren't as efficient. I think they don't realize that tanks do try to pull mobs in certain ways so they're bunched up properly.

obviously i wasn't there but those just sound like people who reasonably thought you were close behind them? they don't even have relevant movement abilities that'd make it hard to keep up.

Big difference is tanks need a target. Reaper doesn't. So tank can be sprinting, reaper dashes ahead 15y, grabs the mobs that are still out of tank gap close range, and then pulls them even further away.

with their dash now on cooldown from pulling and a pack coming at them from range, that hypothetical reaper would still need time to actually reach the pack they pulled. the pack would start movement going in the direction the party is coming from, so, closer to the tank as well. with the 20 yard range it'd probably be easy to gapclose to an enemy before they actually managed to get anywhere with the mobs.