7.3 Hopefully the end of talking to Wuk Lamat

[AlucaDragonheart]

Judging by how angry Wuk got in the trailer, and the blood on her hands/axe, I'm pretty sure she'll have to kill the real Sphene who gets possessed by the Tiara and becomes evil.

[Carin-Eri]

Judging by how angry Wuk got in the trailer, and the blood on her hands/axe, I'm pretty sure she'll have to kill the real Sphene who gets possessed by the Tiara and becomes evil.

Hope not. Real-Sphene becoming evil via the tiara/crown would be a bit predictable to be honest.

It's obviously going to be relevant to the plot in some way, but I really hope they don't do something as obvious as "Sphene puts the crown on and turns evil".

[MicahZerrshia]

Judging by how angry Wuk got in the trailer, and the blood on her hands/axe, I'm pretty sure she'll have to kill the real Sphene who gets possessed by the Tiara and becomes evil.

With the current team this is an mess up of epic proportions I could 100% see them making.

With as loved as Sphene is and how detested Wuk is, the ensuing player reaction would almost make this worth it. Yoshi PR would also respond with "we didn't know just how much you guys liked Sphene and hated Wuk! Wuk isn't bad you guys just really need to give her a chance and Sphene was always set up to be the bad guy." Then they would resurrect Sphene somehow (again) and still not understand what they did wrong.

The best part of this though is that the backlash would be so severe it may actually create the change we are desperate for, since SE would have to pull a Blizzard style reconstruction of the team to gain back customer confidence.

[Atma]

With the current team this is an mess up of epic proportions I could 100% see them making.

With as loved as Sphene is and how detested Wuk is, the ensuing player reaction would almost make this worth it. Yoshi PR would also respond with "we didn't know just how much you guys liked Sphene and hated Wuk! Wuk isn't bad you guys just really need to give her a chance and Sphene was always set up to be the bad guy." Then they would resurrect Sphene somehow (again) and still not understand what they did wrong.

The best part of this though is that the backlash would be so severe it may actually create the change we are desperate for, since SE would have to pull a Blizzard style reconstruction of the team to gain back customer confidence.

I'd be hard-pressed to believe that they didn't realize that Sphene became a fan favorite pretty rapidly. I simply cannot see them going full Sylvanas here. At least I hope not. You never go full Sylvanas.

[MicahZerrshia]

I'd be hard-pressed to believe that they didn't realize that Sphene became a fan favorite pretty rapidly. I simply cannot see them going full Sylvanas here. At least I hope not. You never go full Sylvanas.

They tried to sell us a bargin bin shonen manga and then tried to gaslight us into thinking it wasn't that bad and that Wuk was an under appreciated character immediately after rushing the ending of the Zodiarc saga for no reason outside of Yoshi's boredom with it. I could 100% see them using the excuse of the patch was done way in advance and couldn't be changed so they just tweaked Wuk's dialog a bit to compensate and then added an obviously rushed Sphene resurrection scene, via the power of friendship, to try to avoid most the backlash. Then make us some other excuse about whats happening going forward, but either never deliver on that promise or just do the fastest, easiest, and most basic thing they could do since they can seldom be bothered with XIV.

As you can see, my confidence in this team has fallen so far it can barely even see the light of hope anymore.

[Auro_Seldaris]

rushing the ending of the Zodiarc saga for no reason outside of Yoshi's boredom with it

This. This x100. Mr. Rockstar is getting bored with being saddled with XIV, he is clearly checked out of it and wanting to move on to bigger and better things, or at least different things.

I really do think he believed they cooked with XVI and he was gonna get praised as the man who not only saved XIV , but the whole damn FF franchise. He thought his ticket outta here was punched and then the tepid reaction to XVI hit and he didn't get the praise he expected. So now he's stuck, caretaker of a task he no longer has the passion to perform. And all he can do is sit on stream and play other games, hold up pieces of paper, and BS about going to concerts.

Oh, and tell YOU to go play other games also, since he can't be arsed to make his own game good anymore.

[Atma]

This. This x100. Mr. Rockstar is getting bored with being saddled with XIV, he is clearly checked out of it and wanting to move on to bigger and better things, or at least different things.

I really do think he believed they cooked with XVI and he was gonna get praised as the man who not only saved XIV , but the whole damn FF franchise. He thought his ticket outta here was punched and then the tepid reaction to XVI hit and he didn't get the praise he expected. So now he's stuck, caretaker of a task he no longer has the passion to perform. And all he can do is sit on stream and play other games, hold up pieces of paper, and BS about going to concerts.

Oh, and tell YOU to go play other games also, since he can't be arsed to make his own game good anymore.

On this one aspect, I just want to say this.

I'm not gonna be the world's biggest Yoshi-P defender or anything, because I do think there's either apathy, not listening to what people are saying, overconfidence in his own vision, disinterest, slacking, divided attention, and likely some combination of all of that going on right now. But I do think it's important for MMO producers to tell people that it's OK to go play other games.

It's not really true in these days, but back like 5-10 years ago - the expectation was, and systems were designed to the effect of, you being required to devote yourself to them over all other games to 'keep up.' So it was natural people played FFXIV like that, when it was (for the most part, a few things notwithstanding) not designed to be that way. I personally did think "it's ok to take a break and play other games" was an important message at the time it was said.

[Auro_Seldaris]

On this one aspect, I just want to say this.

I'm not gonna be the world's biggest Yoshi-P defender or anything, because I do think there's either apathy, not listening to what people are saying, overconfidence in his own vision, disinterest, slacking, divided attention, and likely some combination of all of that going on right now. But I do think it's important for MMO producers to tell people that it's OK to go play other games.

It's not really true in these days, but back like 5-10 years ago - the expectation was, and systems were designed to the effect of, you being required to devote yourself to them over all other games to 'keep up.' So it was natural people played FFXIV like that, when it was (for the most part, a few things notwithstanding) not designed to be that way. I personally did think "it's ok to take a break and play other games" was an important message at the time it was said.

Yes. At the time it was said. Not now.

My counter to this is that certain elements of the community use it as an excuse to deflect criticism of the team back onto YOU, the player. It's become a catch-all for excusing complacency from the dev team, excusing lazy design, or just outright getting rid of people that certain parts of the community find troublesome.

"You're just burned out/a hater/not a TRUE fan, go play other games like Yoshia said."