Now that the game is officially on its deathbed, what are your thoughts?

[Renaclock]

Patch MSQ is pretty good I'm excited for .3 for that.
I think main problem of the game is that its leans too much on savage and ultimate when most ppl don't even touch those content.
They're also kind of content that you can't just jump in but watch videos and learn mechanics and stuff so def not a great "main content" for MMO.
I think they should make "normal" content gear/stats based main content and "hard" content skill based optional content so "hard" stuff is more about challenge and "normal" is
where you get gears from and for.
If the game is less about savage/ultimates they can totally add more interesting RPG systems like gear with random stats or skills and sprinkle those as rewards everywhere.
I do think savage and ultimates are important to have in the game but game I feel like the entire game and balance is revolving around those when those are not the content every player interacts.

[All_Nonsense]

They are working overtime deleting threads that are critizising them huh

For real it's insane

[TeresaFortell]

- Some coffers have an absurdly high drop rate – this has to be a bug. It completely devalues the 99-token mount and rare loot from previous expansions. We all know what happens to content when the rewards are worthless.

I still do not understand why they thought it would be a great idea to put loot from past field ops into OC. Because in doing so, not only have they tanked the items' values on marketboards, but also decimated many groups that were primarily active in those field ops.

[Valence]

Frontlines got better replayability than anything else we got in Dawntrail so far lmao

That's what I keep saying, pvp is one of the few pieces of content in XIV that actually offers a good shelf life.

[YukioKobayashi]

"Now that the game is officially on its deathbed" - The game that places #3 in the MMORPG genre after WoW and OSRS when it comes to the active playercount.
XIV is in the same low WoW was with Shadowlands.
To blame are the minority of the playerbase that is crying on the forum like little babies. e.g. Something "new" comes out (Chaotic) and the casual cry babies coming out of their corner saying its shit, too hard, not fun, too hardcore instead of giving constructive criticism and examples on how to make it better.

[Themarvin]

"Now that the game is officially on its deathbed" - The game that places #3 in the MMORPG genre after WoW and OSRS when it comes to the active playercount.
XIV is in the same low WoW was with Shadowlands.
To blame are the minority of the playerbase that is crying on the forum like little babies. e.g. Something "new" comes out (Chaotic) and the casual cry babies coming out of their corner saying its shit, too hard, not fun, too hardcore instead of giving constructive criticism and examples on how to make it better.

I didn't vote for anything and I doubt that anyone else did either, and it is basically based on third party critics and possible influencers and so called streamers and content creators?

[Jeeqbit]

Something "new" comes out (Chaotic) and the casual cry babies coming out of their corner saying its shit, too hard, not fun, too hardcore instead of giving constructive criticism and examples on how to make it better.

To be fair, the main criticism of it was purely the pad body check which ground most people's progression to a halt. And beside the entry issues, this same issue is what SE has identified as the problem in Forked Tower. In a large scale raid, a certain percentage of people are just not likely to do the mechanic right, so a certain percentage of them need to, frankly, be able to be carried for the content to feel good.

CLL once again had the concept down perfectly. 8 people were assigned to fight a boss and if they messed up, everyone wiped. Those 8 people had to be solid at their task and not mess it up, because everyone was counting on them. The other 16 could die 18 times and get constant rezzes and probably be fine.

I'm not saying Chaotic should allow 16 people to get it wrong, but that it could have allowed just a few more people to mess it up. Maybe 6 people? Which is a quarter of the raid. Requiring too many people to get it right makes people want to push away those who are fresh and then it's difficult for them to establish their own groups given the scale.

I agree that people often don't articulate the actual problem when they post though. A common one is when people say "there is no content" but the actual problem is that the content doesn't have enough dynamic factors to make it fun to replay long-term, because of how it's scripted and party-influencing dynamics have been stripped away over the years ie. damage type vulns, TP share, MP share, enmity share, tanks needing heals.

Oddly, I feel that the OC CEs have enough going on that they mostly go different every time, despite following a script, just because they keep you on your toes so much that a different cast will probably clip you each time you do the fight, and that can often be the case with fights that have more going on. But it leaves at least slower fights to become a chore to repeat after doing it 100 times and it's made worse when the game essentially expects you to repeat it, such as daily Expert roulettes to cap tomestones.

[Shinku_Tachi]

I see a MMOs lifecycle like a sine wave.

If you played enough MMOs over the years, you've seen it.

Sure, they're in a rough patch, but they can turn things around. They have before, other MMOs have before

[MaikoRaines]

Predictions for replies:

"Just unsub"
"Wuk Lamat..."
"Actually you're wrong because"
"I took the obvious bait. Here is the dissertation I ran through ChatGPT to make sure you're wrong and I'm right"
"I'm sad that the game is dying but I'm going to take it out on the people who complain about the drop in quality and not on the devs who are fleecing my wallet to give me slop"
"This was a reading comprehension check"

Garbage takes from the title of this thread to the dead horse beaten that is this post, said before, by many before and probably after you.

[Raikai]

That's what I keep saying, pvp is one of the few pieces of content in XIV that actually offers a good shelf life.

I wonder if PVP jobs were designed by a completely different branch of people, because how it's possible that there's like 1/4th of the actions available for PVE and jobs there still feel more dynamic and engaging to play?