@Casuals , do you think the message has gotten through?

[AmiableApkallu]

Im gonna defend the people casting cure 1 problem for a quick second. Square designed the spell and encouraged its use because of the garbage freecure trait that hasn't been good in years. The game innately tells you to cast it, and rewards you for doing it.

Who on Hydaelyn thinks that a 1 in 7 chance of a proc is actually worth going for?

I'd think it more likely that someone believes MP management is actually a thing in this game, and so they're saving the MP-expensive spells for dire moments and relying on the MP-cheap spells in the meantime. It's similar to tanks who save all their mitigations for bosses and not the trash mobs because they're used to games where all the hard hits come from the bosses.

[Mawlzy]

Who on Hydaelyn thinks that a 1 in 7 chance of a proc is actually worth going for?

I'd think it more likely that someone believes MP management is actually a thing in this game, and so they're saving the MP-expensive spells for dire moments and relying on the MP-cheap spells in the meantime. It's similar to tanks who save all their mitigations for bosses and not the trash mobs because they're used to games where all the hard hits come from the bosses.

I'd suggest you're overthinking this. A button is on the hotbar. Some people will press it. You could make the tooltip "DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON" and nothing would change.

I think you greatly overestimate the actual considerations that a lot of very casual players have when it comes to their toolkit. .

Exactly this.

[Alahard]

Who on Hydaelyn thinks that a 1 in 7 chance of a proc is actually worth going for?

I'd think it more likely that someone believes MP management is actually a thing in this game, and so they're saving the MP-expensive spells for dire moments and relying on the MP-cheap spells in the meantime. It's similar to tanks who save all their mitigations for bosses and not the trash mobs because they're used to games where all the hard hits come from the bosses.

Im not saying its worth it. It's absolute trash. The problem is how is a new player suppose to judge that at lv 30, when endgame is 100?

I'm saying the game tricks people, especially those who aren't good at numbers, into believing it is. And until they are corrected, its an issue. And of course, the "correction" received can seem harsh, as they were doing what the game told them to do.

Its just trash design the devs refuse to address.

I think you greatly overestimate the actual considerations that a lot of very casual players have when it comes to their toolkit. The freecure trap, while being a stupid design leftover from ARR era, is probably the least of their troubles, and I'm pretty convinced that most don't even have considered or even noticed that it can actually proc a free cure 2.

For those who don't, its an even bigger design issue. The devs have intentionally left a healing spell in the game that is worthless past cure 2. But Players, having used cure 1 up to that point ( and have to keep it on the bar for dungeon roulettes), are accustomed to it being the to go heal, so of course the spell is going to be clicked.

Again - just horrible design from the devs.

[Valence]

For those who don't, its an even bigger design issue. The devs have intentionally left a healing spell in the game that is worthless past cure 2. But Players, having used cure 1 up to that point ( and have to keep it on the bar for dungeon roulettes), are accustomed to it being the to go heal, so of course the spell is going to be clicked.

Again - just horrible design from the devs.

I mean I agreed that freecure is dumb, but my whole point is that as soon as you add even the smallest pinch of intricacies (which include just different potencies for different goals), you'll have people that won't try to understand them or make sense of tooltips. They'll just press the buttons they are given because they look cool and do stuff.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[…] They'll just press the buttons they are given because they look cool and do stuff.

The best other examples I could think of are the Toxikon Mages & … Flamethrower on MCH?

[ChrysOCE]

The best other examples I could think of are the Toxikon Mages & … Flamethrower on MCH?

hey, flamethrower is nice! use it and just relax for a few XD