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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Based on SE's perceived limits, I do not think it is feasible to have a ward for all the characters that have ever been made. Each ward is a server program. I did the maths for that a while ago and based on how many server programs they run per machine, it would require more physical space and machines than they will ever actually have. It may be easier if they used cloud servers for it and only run them if they aren't empty though.

    It is definitely feasible to decouple houses from plots so that you can teleport directly inside them somehow, then make wards a reflection of active players that have logged in within 45 days. However, it is possible it would require throwing their house code away and rewriting the entire thing in a way that reuses the house data. It would require a little effort, maybe a day, or a few days, to do something like that, but they just rarely seem to touch their code at all.

    Island Sanctuary is proof that they can do it, because it is effectively instanced gardens. On the technical side, it's the same thing as instanced housing. Either way, you have furnishing slots and instances are reserved upon entry, rather than remaining there when you exit like plots.
    So only problem I see is se's housing wards are basically one map with certain wards decorations loaded or unloaded. The assets are all loaded client side and a housing ward is effectively a long spreadsheet with xyz coordinates, rotational data, and an item code. All wow does is load or unload server space for whenever someone goes into a shard and loads the persons spreadsheet. The individual wards take very little actual data and the server space is reserved and unloaded as required. XIV does a similar thing with instanced content. It would just be loading an instance with a saved spreadsheet of item coordinates. Adding someone to the ward is effectively the same as adding someone else to the common spreadsheet. They take remarkably little space when handled that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Based on SE's perceived limits, I do not think it is feasible to have a ward for all the characters that have ever been made. Each ward is a server program. I did the maths for that a while ago and based on how many server programs they run per machine, it would require more physical space and machines than they will ever actually have. It may be easier if they used cloud servers for it and only run them if they aren't empty though.
    It would be a nice use of those cloud servers they tested! (And my server connection was a lot better on the cloud too!)

    But I definitely like the look of their version of neighborhoods… before they decided to reclassify the wards, a lot of our FC members got houses close to the FC house. Now our ward is FC only so we can’t do that anymore. Also loving that they have a choice of different biomes within their housing zones. And that your house (and I assume furniture placement?) is saved when you move.

    I don’t know that I actually want to play their game, but the housing sure makes it tempting to try out!
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    They could at least add one thing: an option to completely turn off that stupid housing grind.
    Just let everyone build whatever they want without using glitches.
    If I want a chair floating in the air or half a wardrobe stuck in the wall, that’s fine.
    It would make life so much easier for all housing designers.
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    Square Enix can't even be asked to moderate these forums, you think they even read shit like this?
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    Square Enix will just bury their head in the sand, they'll never acknowledge this kind of stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Square Enix can't even be asked to moderate these forums, you think they even read shit like this?
    lol I remember when they used to reply at suggestions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    lol I remember when they used to reply at suggestions
    WoW GMs used to be a lot more involved too. Man those were the times. I feel like most mmo companies see direct GM involvement like the old days as a liability. That and the increase in player population leaves them with no end of dumb tickets that amount to nothing more than, "Big daddy Square he said a mean thing about me. My life is ruined and ill never recover." I shit on blizzard and xiv a lot but I won't actually go after them for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YovelaLindswood View Post
    WoW GMs used to be a lot more involved too. Man those were the times. I feel like most mmo companies see direct GM involvement like the old days as a liability. That and the increase in player population leaves them with no end of dumb tickets that amount to nothing more than, "Big daddy Square he said a mean thing about me. My life is ruined and ill never recover." I shit on blizzard and xiv a lot but I won't actually go after them for that.
    Aye, you’re right, but you still feel the need to have a bit of a rant at them, just in case it actually gets through
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunzite_Lockhart View Post
    If I want a chair floating in the air or half a wardrobe stuck in the wall, that’s fine.
    We have run through upside down castles, bubbles on the ocean floor, the moon, and the depths of the life stream. We have traveled between realities, time and through the stars to the ends of the universe itself!

    But a floating chair is where SE draws the realism line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    We have run through upside down castles, bubbles on the ocean floor, the moon, and the depths of the life stream. We have traveled between realities, time and through the stars to the ends of the universe itself!

    But a floating chair is where SE draws the realism line.
    Unless it's a mount you're sitting on in your yard.
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