Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
I don't know how I feel about this one. It is an online game so there really is an acceptable level you need to play that some people truly don't care to play at. I see people with like 40% ABC, vipers with less emnity than the healer, etc. When you do group content and you are sandbagging, you're wasting some else's time who many not have fun spending 25 minutes in their roulette. In group content you should always try your best. Your best doesn't have to be good or perfect, but it should be your best. If you try your best, you will almost certainly improve.

TLDR: Playing bad ok, as long as you are trying your best. Learning is encouraged though, it doesnt just benefit you.
I think part of the problem we're facing is that a single mechanic now dominates fights: responding rapidly to (often obscure) tells and moving to the safe spot.

Anyone playing a game will instinctively try to resolve that mechanic. In that sense they are trying their best. But it's also a mechanic that is difficult for a subset of players (for multiple reasons).

Many "good" players seem genuinely baffled by how "bad" some others are in PvE in this game. I'm convinced it mostly stems from this DDR trend.

You can't teach speed.

And the side effect is a "good" player will see a "bad" one who is barely casting and assume they're just goofing off, whereas in fact that player is completely overwhelmed by simply avoiding the bad.