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  1. #21
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    But at that point you are 7 degrees of separation away from the original question which is making phantom jobs into real jobs by replacing what phantom chemist currently is with a fully imagined version of chemist loosely based on older versions of chemists

    Like at that point I can basically say “I want phantom oracle as a real job and phantom oracle should just play like HW SCH”

    Basing it on its complete lack of merits as a current phantom job I’m not sure what anyone sees in chemist
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Malia Tri'el
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    Bard Lv 100
    A popular concept is that Chemist would use something like NIN's Mudra system for mixing potions. Another one is that it would be a 'physical healer,' and would use weapon skills, and abilities over spells. So what could be done is that each ingredient has a relatively high MP cost so the job's gameplay revolves around the physical act of mixing potions, and a greater focus on MP management. It could take a lot of inspiration from like Ana from Overwatch.
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    Last edited by mallleable; 06-28-2025 at 05:05 AM. Reason: an e

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    Corvo Aerden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    If they "tried" Chemist and it became Sage because they couldn't reasonably make a [Mix] and [Stash] (non-consuming items,i.e. normal actions) action set, then no offense they either were:

    1.) Playing it way too safe with job design like usual
    2.) Are too stubborn to accept a version of Chemist that isnt functionally similar to non-XIV variants of the job (hello Blue Mage)
    3.) Are unironically lacking the creativity to design the job - which blows my mind considering how one could pick parts of past FF titles and even Bravely/Octopath titles and check for any item based job there.
    Honestly, yeah. Them claiming that they have tried chemist but it turn to sage is such an insult. How sage is played is so far from how chemist works.
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  4. #24
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    Chasingstars's Avatar
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    Zoh Chah
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    Since phantom jobs are based on FF5 jobs and we might get it around the same patch cycle the content for it is released, Beastmaster and Blue Mage, except not-limited.
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    Andevom Vonskivaux
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    Chemist would be a nightmare, and they have steered clear of making jobs that require consumable items to effectively play their role.

    Please no.
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Personally how I would imagine Mixing working if they implemented it would be basically just Ninja's Mudras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andevom View Post
    Chemist would be a nightmare, and they have steered clear of making jobs that require consumable items to effectively play their role.

    Please no.
    Or they can make it not require consumables? /shrug

    Just like how bard don't need arrows.
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  8. #28
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    Katherine Thorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    Chemist, but actually done well unlike the Phantom Job lol.
    Ph. Chemist was actually done pretty well considering the FFV source.

    If they ever consider adding it to main game not having a material cost for some healing spells it would be a total shame aswell!
    Imagine having to prepare/grind materials or use ALC made stuff as consumables per cast in regular dungeons, heck make them more potent than other healers to compensate for the prep, and in case someone doesn't prep they still have a weak heal they can use. It would definitely add a lot of variety versus the other healers! ♥
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  9. #29
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    Zoh Chah
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by XtremePrime View Post
    Ph. Chemist was actually done pretty well considering the FFV source.

    If they ever consider adding it to main game not having a material cost for some healing spells it would be a total shame aswell!
    Imagine having to prepare/grind materials or use ALC made stuff as consumables per cast in regular dungeons, heck make them more potent than other healers to compensate for the prep, and in case someone doesn't prep they still have a weak heal they can use. It would definitely add a lot of variety versus the other healers! ♥
    Chemist: "Sorry guys I know I am late to tonight's progging, was just finishing my 2 hour grind of making high quality alchemist consumables. At least it wasn't longer like last time as I remembered to farm the ingredients in advance."
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Best bet I have is Geomancer caster DPS in the future. Since WHM kind of steered away from the nature's elements.
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