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    Elasandria Servion
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
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    the most obvious way to demonstrate this is with archer/bard on moogle. to do optimal dps you keep every WS on cooldown while light shotting absolutely as much as humanly possible. both gamepad and keyboard/mouse can keep everything on cooldown... except for light shot. only k/m can effectively do this. the difference between a player using k/m hitting their dps ceiling and a player using gamepad hitting their dps ceiling tends to be a difference of about 25-50 light shots... or more. which is why a gamepad user will likely cap out at around 70-75 dps where a keyboard/mouse user can cap out between 80-90.

    50+ light shots makes a hell of a difference, and there is simply no logically objective way to dispute the fact that every time a keyboard/mouse user wants to use light shot in between WSs it takes him 1 button press, then 1 button press to do his next WS... and the gamepad user has to do quite a number more.

    these are precious seconds when, added up over the course of a battle, cost you precious dps time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Selecting skills with a controller is much much slower that pressing a number key, when I am fighting something difficult (especially solo) I will always use keys with the action bar because its much faster and reliable.

    What with lag also it can effect where you scroll to on the action bar when using both controller and arrow keys and sometimes can end up pressing the wrong action.

    Like someone said above if you are feeling lazy use controller (which I do at times) but if you want to be accurate and on the ball keyboard and mouse is probably better.

    That being said targeting with a mouse is horrendous still, hopefully in 2.0 it will be much better.
    I can hit a macro for lightshotting as fast as I can press the 1 key. I've never on any job failed to keep EVERY skill on cooldown, and had time to spare to think about if I should move, which I should do next, pause to chat. If you can't use a controller effectively, don't, but don't assume that noone can and then try to justify it with arguments that are at best opinions that you've formed based on your own experiences.
    Maybe it's years of playing with controllers, but I know that I'm more effective when using a controller, I never would have gone through the headache of getting my PS3 controller working w/ and w/o bluetooth if this weren't the case.
    I will not say that everyone can be as fast or faster with a kbd or controller, and there are certainly some games where a kbd/mouse is more effecient, I have a G-13 for a reason too, but even that doesn't compare to a controller in this or FFXI.
    Effective use of macros while moving through all 3 action bars while moving and adjusting my camera to get a better look at where I am and what else might be coming. I've never been able to accomplish that many things at once w/ a kbd.

    Lag and animation locks stop dead your speed w/ a kbd anyway, you still can't just roll your finger along the keys you'll get that annoying ass "buzz" of you being unable to execute another action yet. With or w/o the /actionqueue on I have that happen more than I care to think about.
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    Last edited by Enfarious; 05-01-2012 at 01:57 AM.

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