Mouse/Keyboard vs. Controller: Your Thoughts

[Denmo]

isn't it simple? words words words words

The game's lag is too much for all that to even matter.

Oh wait, you're in BlueGarter. I should've known.

[Gramul]

Fair explanation 1

Fair explanation 2

Honestly you're talking about split seconds of difference to a point where it doesn't make that much difference in the long run. Especially with fights this short.
But you are right. k/m is strictly faster.

[Enfarious]

Honestly you're talking about split seconds of difference to a point where it doesn't make that much difference in the long run. Especially with fights this short.
But you are right. k/m is strictly faster.

Course it's really all moot, the recast on lightshot, or anything else is what equalizes it all, I can easily use a controller to get from action 1 to action 30 and back in the time it takes to be able to re lightshot.
Unless they removed the lightshot recast? At which point I can just sit and mash "X" all day.

[Jinko]

Explain how it works to inhibit you.

Selecting skills with a controller is much much slower that pressing a number key, when I am fighting something difficult (especially solo) I will always use keys with the action bar because its much faster and reliable.

What with lag also it can effect where you scroll to on the action bar when using both controller and arrow keys and sometimes can end up pressing the wrong action.

Like someone said above if you are feeling lazy use controller (which I do at times) but if you want to be accurate and on the ball keyboard and mouse is probably better.

That being said targeting with a mouse is horrendous still, hopefully in 2.0 it will be much better.

[Irishwars]

I have no idea how anyone plays without a controller, I tried for awhile. H%ll no

[Arcell]

You can set up your skills in a gamepad efficient way so that you have access to everything you need within a few button presses. I can't argue that it takes more presses to get there but I can get to almost any skill I need with gamepad in a second or less.

I also don't give two shits about maximizing my end-game DPS to the extent that you're talking about. Really doesn't matter to me. I'm going to play well with my gamepad and that's pretty much going to be it lol. I can do the things I need to and I can play well, that's what really matters to me. I can be "on the ball" and play very well with the gamepad.

If we're talking about super high-end elitist DPS races then yeah, I guess gamepad is inferior. Keyboard will always be a little faster sure, it will always have greater functionality. However outside of chat, there's nothing that requires a keyboard vs a gamepad.

[Jinko]

You can set up your skills in a gamepad efficient way so that you have access to everything you need within a few button presses. I can't argue that it takes more presses to get there but I can get to almost any skill I need with gamepad in a second or less.

I also don't give two shits about maximizing my end-game DPS to the extent that you're talking about. Really doesn't matter to me. I'm going to play well with my gamepad and that's pretty much going to be it lol. I can do the things I need to and I can play well, that's what really matters to me. I can be "on the ball" and play very well with the gamepad.

If we're talking about super high-end elitist DPS races then yeah, I guess gamepad is inferior. Keyboard will always be a little faster sure, it will always have greater functionality. However outside of chat, there's nothing that requires a keyboard vs a gamepad.

Wow no need to be so defensive.. I see this thread is starting to turn for the worse.

Healing on the gamepad isn't hard if you set yourself up right. I'm not saying it's easier or better they using a mouse but it can still be quite efficient. Just set your default target so that you have easy access to any players you might need to heal. Personally I usually set myself as the main target because I am off the list. This way if I hit up I start at the bottom of the list, if I hit down I start at the top of the list. Using the D-pad to select names, I can get anywhere I need to on that player list quickly. If there's a situation where I'm going to be healing one person far more often than others, I set them as my main target. Given, I don't heal often but when I do I'm not deficient simply because I use a gamepad.

This is pretty interesting, I guess it depends how you heal, but a player who heals purely with controller only its quite a bit slower than someone who uses number keys and a mouse.

For example you have to scroll across your abilities and then scroll up and down the names.

On a mouse you can either select the skill and target the player (which is what I do) or turn off the subtargeting and select the player and press the skill.

Both of which are much faster, now you may say bleh who cares about that elitist nonsense well I don't think I'm elitist in the slightest, there is something to be said for efficiency though.

[Arcell]

This is pretty interesting, I guess it depends how you heal, but a player who heals purely with controller only its quite a bit slower than someone who uses number keys and a mouse.

For example you have to scroll across your abilities and then scroll up and down the names.

On a mouse you can either select the skill and target the player (which is what I do) or turn off the subtargeting and select the player and press the skill.

Both of which are much faster, now you may say bleh who cares about that elitist nonsense well I don't think I'm elitist in the slightest, there is something to be said for efficiency though.

I wouldn't say it's quite a bit slower. You can think ahead and queue up actions with subtargeting up. If you know you're going to need to heal someone soon you can hover around it for a second and wait. I grouped all of my heal/buff skills close together so I'd have easy access to all of them. The way I think with gamepads when setting up skills is vertical in addition to horizontal. D-pad up/down switches action bar rows so it's quite easy to get to the next row and if you set up your skills the right way you can get there with fewer button presses.

Again I guess it is slower but I wouldn't say by quite a bit. You can heal quickly if you set yourself up right and anticipate what you'll need to do within the next 10 seconds or so. Gamepads can do it well, it may just be very slightly slower. Hardly noticeable in my experience. Every time I've tried to play with KB/Mouse it's been a mess, can't stand it.

[Zell]

Healing is easier using the keyboard and mouse.... Clicking on a name and clicking on an ability is faster than toggling the ability and then toggling the name.

Controller is awesome for crafting and gathering. It's also great for melee classes. However, I find myself being more efficient with a keyboard. If my scroller is on ability 7 and I need to get to ability 2, I need to toggle/scroll through the abilities. On keyboard, I just click on 2.

To each his own, and this is coming from someone who used a controller exclusively in FFXI and FFXIV. I switched to keyboard/mouse because healing was not efficient. I have room for both in my FFXIV life.

[Arcell]

Healing on the gamepad isn't hard if you set yourself up right. I'm not saying it's easier or better they using a mouse but it can still be quite efficient. Just set your default target so that you have easy access to any players you might need to heal. Personally I usually set myself as the main target because I am off the list. This way if I hit up I start at the bottom of the list, if I hit down I start at the top of the list. Using the D-pad to select names, I can get anywhere I need to on that player list quickly. If there's a situation where I'm going to be healing one person far more often than others, I set them as my main target. Given, I don't heal often but when I do I'm not deficient simply because I use a gamepad.