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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    So provided the Plebs bend the knee, they will be tolerated?
    I think we just have a difference of perspective here. As a reasonably social person, I have no qualms joining subcommunities in a multiplayer game and collaborating with people (they don't bite) to clear something. If you see that as a bending of the knee rather than just a normal process when something requires real collaboration, I can only hope that your perspective on community changes as you go about your life. It would certainly benefit you in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neclord View Post
    I think we just have a difference of perspective here. As a reasonably social person, I have no qualms joining subcommunities in a multiplayer game and collaborating with people (they don't bite) to clear something. If you see that as a bending of the knee rather than just a normal process when something requires real collaboration, I can only hope that your perspective on community changes as you go about your life. It would certainly benefit you in the long run.
    Cannot upvote this enough. It's like, you shouldn't do everything just because you can, you know? If I were to intrude on a soccer game on a public soccer court, I'd still be the asshole, and that is literally that the snipers are doing. The most recent one did write about how they never got a discord invite - that's because they already sniped, and by doing so have lost the right to any goodwill from other players.

    e/: All the sniping leeches are free to try and make their own run with snipers only. You will prog like everyone else on the (very much public) discords did, and you will fail miserably because you never felt the need to organize since you could leech off of players who actually put in the effort. I don't care if we pay the same sub, 48 people's needs do indeed trump yours when you can literally join a discord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neclord View Post
    I think we just have a difference of perspective here. As a reasonably social person, I have no qualms joining subcommunities in a multiplayer game and collaborating with people (they don't bite) to clear something. If you see that as a bending of the knee rather than just a normal process when something requires real collaboration, I can only hope that your perspective on community changes as you go about your life. It would certainly benefit you in the long run.
    Perception is central to this, yes.

    The issue, however, is the ability of many Discord groups to understand how their words and actions impact how they are perceived.

    To give a topical example, the arrogance and gall of anyone would would tell someone that they need to change their view of community to lead a better life is... I mean, you may not understand why you're perceived as hate-filled, self-obsessed elitists, but I certainly can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Perception is central to this, yes.

    The issue, however, is the ability of many Discord groups to understand how their words and actions impact how they are perceived.

    To give a topical example, the arrogance and gall of anyone would would tell someone that they need to change their view of community to lead a better life is... I mean, you may not understand why you're perceived as hate-filled, self-obsessed elitists, but I certainly can.
    I'm not telling you to change anything or that you need to change anything. I get that it's more convenient to reply to an arrogant statement, but in order to engage in a conversation with me you actually have to respond to the words I'm actually saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neclord View Post
    I'm not telling you to change anything or that you need to change anything. I get that it's more convenient to reply to an arrogant statement, but in order to engage in a conversation with me you actually have to respond to the words I'm actually saying.
    I am not engaging in a conversation with anyone who thinks they have profound insights on how I can improve my life, particularly when they have never met me.

    Physician, heal thyself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    I am not engaging in a conversation with anyone who thinks they have profound insights on how I can improve my life, particularly when they have never met me.

    Physician, heal thyself.
    It's rather ghastly - and arrogant - to suggest I need to heal myself. To suggest that I need to go on some spiritual and mental journey of healing. What qualifies you to suggest this? Have you met me? Have you walked a mile in my shoes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neclord View Post
    It's rather ghastly - and arrogant - to suggest I need to heal myself. To suggest that I need to go on some spiritual and mental journey of healing. What qualifies you to suggest this? Have you met me? Have you walked a mile in my shoes?
    "The proverb "Physician, heal thyself" means that one should address their own flaws, problems, or shortcomings before attempting to correct those of others. It's an ancient saying, dating back to at least the 6th century B.C. and appearing in various texts, including the Bible in Luke 4:23. The phrase emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and personal responsibility before offering guidance or solutions to others."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    "The proverb "Physician, heal thyself" means that one should address their own flaws, problems, or shortcomings
    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    I am not engaging in a conversation with anyone who thinks they have profound insights on how I can improve my life, particularly when they have never met me.

    Physician, heal thyself.

    Goodness gracious.
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