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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    I am quite shocked that the reason for a lack of "Normal Mode" Forked Tower was, according to unofficial translations, that it would have cost too much.
    This game a load bearing pillar for Square Enix.
    Yeah - if ever we wanted/needed evidence that the money the game generates doesn't get fed back into the game, there it is - from the EP's own mouth.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Apparently it's not even worth comment why, if there is only going to be one version, it has to be the savage one.
    Yep. That's an issue too.
    Like, if you really had to choose between two versions, wouldn't you normally pick the one the majority of players can enjoy?

    Why pick the one, only the comparably smaller group will even play at all?

    It's mind boggling. It's ineffective. Who makes such baffling decisions in this company?? It simply makes no sense to me, except they really want to filter out the more casual crowd and give 14 a more raiding oriented feeling. The casual crowd should just play the mobile version, I guess, that will probably be monetized to hell and back.... Crazy, simply crazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    ^Dont know, i rather trust the Balance Translation and there is nothing about "money"

    "Y: However, it would be really difficult to create so much content in time for our usual schedule"
    That is what is said in the Balance Discord, im honest with you all, Yoshi P not once said something about "costs to much" in the past, why would he now
    I didn't know there was another translation. I hope they didn't really say it though. I wish they didn't.
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    Last edited by Aniise; 06-20-2025 at 08:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Yeah - if ever we wanted/needed evidence that the money the game generates doesn't get fed back into the game, there it is - from the EP's own mouth.
    Well, according to Avo quoting the translation from the Balance discord, the constraint may have been time cost, not monetary cost?

    Not sure which unofficial translator is to trust here, but that raises a different issue I have complained about in the past: why is the PLL only in Japanese? they pre-prepare everything anyhow and this is an international product.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikor View Post
    The company who merchandises this game to the point Disney should take notes just said they can't do something due to "cost"--I honestly don't have words.
    Development cost, not money. Money isn't a problem. What that means is if they have 10 developers, they assign 3 to Cosmic, 1 to FT, 3 to OC, 3 to extreme and savage - they didn't assign one to a "normal" version.

    So next time it'll be solved not due to more money necessarily (considering they are actively hiring), but due to planning the development roadmap better, basically.
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    Part One of the LL was awful and my opinion of YoshiP has dropped significantly. He is completely tone-deaf.
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    Last edited by Carin-Eri; 06-20-2025 at 08:52 PM.

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    Nice, we're not even at the end of LL and the first ad is running already.

    At this point, it's time to change my sub to the cheap version as well as discontinuing my additional retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    Yep. That's an issue too.
    Like, if you really had to choose between two versions, wouldn't you normally pick the one the majority of players can enjoy?

    Why pick the one, only the comparably smaller group will even play at all?

    It's mind boggling. It's ineffective. Who makes such baffling decisions in this company?? It simply makes no sense to me, except they really want to filter out the more casual crowd and give 14 a more raiding oriented feeling. The casual crowd should just play the mobile version, I guess, that will probably be monetized to hell and back.... Crazy, simply crazy.
    Clearly they can't keep up with their hectic content release schedule. So yeah, just turn an MMO into a raiding simulator.
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  9. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Nice, we're not even at the end of LL and the first ad is running already.

    At this point, it's time to change my sub to the cheap version as well as discontinuing my additional retainers.
    Its normal, they always show ads or anything during the break, and right now part 1 is done
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    Reminder that the idea of "cost" isn't especially about money, it's mostly about time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Development cost, not money. Money isn't a problem. What that means is if they have 10 developers, they assign 3 to Cosmic, 1 to FT, 3 to OC, 3 to extreme and savage - they didn't assign one to a "normal" version.

    So next time it'll be solved not due to more money necessarily (considering they are actively hiring), but due to planning the development roadmap better, basically.

    Next time?

    A start-up six months into its first project is more competent than this.
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