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  1. #51
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    ovIm's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Lots of "we'll consider this for the future" and tone-deaf responses. Disappointing.
    I am quite shocked that the reason for a lack of "Normal Mode" Forked Tower was, according to unofficial translations, that it would have cost too much.
    This game a load bearing pillar for Square Enix.
    (10)
    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

  2. #52
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    Aniise's Avatar
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    Nhaama Kagon
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    Shiva
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    The reason for them not implementing a normal version of Forked Tower being cost...is simply...wow...

    I'm at a loss for words...

    Disappointing at best, enraging at worst. And really, really sad for long time players.
    (10)
    Me too, Erenville, me too

  3. #53
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    Carin Eri
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    Love the fact that they refuse to increase the Atmadroprate, and called it indirect a "skillissue" xD
    Honestly can't believe how tone-deaf the responses are!

    It basically amounts to:
    Player Feedback: "this is a problem"
    YoshiP: "We will consider addressing this in the future" OR "I don't consider this to be a problem".
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    Last edited by Carin-Eri; 06-20-2025 at 08:33 PM.

  4. #54
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    The answer to the reason why there's no normal version of FT is just baffling. There's no way to defend that or interpret it differently.. so disappointing
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  5. #55
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    The company who merchandises this game to the point Disney should take notes just said they can't do something due to "cost"--I honestly don't have words.
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    Last edited by Vikor; 06-20-2025 at 08:36 PM.

  6. #56
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    Flan Vongola
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    Don't worry the end of the LL is going to fix the cost issue. Just bear with them a little longer. It's going to be brand new plushies and Yshtola mega-pillow.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by XtremePrime View Post
    The answer to the reason why there's no normal version of FT is just baffling. There's no way to defend that or interpret it differently.. so disappointing
    Apparently it's not even worth comment why, if there is only going to be one version, it has to be the savage one.
    (6)

  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    My predictions for the OC FT Live Letter:

    Either
    • all talk and no action. (I honestly have little insight as to what the detail of that might be. Other than we hear you and please look forward to part 2).

    or
    • "We aren't gong to comment on our original intentions for FT.
      - But we have heard the complaints of the Upper-class High-end, and because its the easiest change to make, we are helping the discord cartel savage player get what they want, and making it easier for them to pull the ladder up after themselves, and enter with full complete exclusive premades.
      - We will not be changing the design of Forked.
      - We will not be enabling it to be queued casually, nor limiting premades to of 8/48, nor applying stiff penalties for abandoning, nor anything else to really help casuals get in without threat or hindrance
      - We would like acknowledge the complaints of the casual player, but as we don't really acknowledge they exist that would be problematic."

    ...
    Well we have it I think:

    * Premade of 48 now allowed = "- But we have heard the complaints of the Upper-class High-end, and because its the easiest change to make, we are helping the discord cartel savage player get what they want, and making it easier for them to pull the ladder up after themselves, and enter with full complete exclusive premades."

    (Oh by the way "the reason there was no normal... cost..." we looked at Chaotic and decided we needed to F the casuals over some more.
    That's not an explanation. Why did you decide to do Savage and not normal? = "We would like acknowledge the complaints of the casual player, but as we don't really acknowledge they exist that would be problematic.")

    If they'd have any integrity, they would have allowed FT to be queued out of instance, and forced it to be maximum parties of 8, and said we stand by our content, this will help others get in.
    Or failing that just ditched the ciphers all together, and said everyone gets equal chance to get as individuals, once your in, don't abandon or be locked out.

    "A Normal version, next one"(maybe? I think) = "Other than we hear you and please look forward to part 2"

    Well, premade of 48 with huge body checks? Did that for Chaotic, I wouldn't go there again.
    I don't know, maybe if the body checks are only 24/48, that won't be so bad.

    * Will it be possible if somone enters with a premade of 24? That you will still be able to enter with them at the temple?

    I didn't get any comment on their original intentions for the FT systems. Maybe thats translation and it will come out in other summaries/transcripts.

    --------

    The one big question still... no normal because of cost.... WHY SAVAGE AND NOT NORMAL?

    I don't know. I know I'm just beyond seeing anyof this positively even if there is good there for players like me. I doubt it.

    Think I'm done with the letter.
    Bye.
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 06-20-2025 at 08:38 PM.

  9. #59
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    Maweth Ashari
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    The reason for them not implementing a normal version of Forked Tower being cost...is simply...wow...

    I'm at a loss for words...

    Disappointing at best, enraging at worst. And really, really sad for long time players.
    ^Dont know, i rather trust the Balance Translation and there is nothing about "money"

    "Y: However, it would be really difficult to create so much content in time for our usual schedule"
    That is what is said in the Balance Discord, im honest with you all, Yoshi P not once said something about "costs to much" in the past, why would he now
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  10. #60
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHAH queue for FT will take till 7.3
    I think the quickest type of queue they could do would be to make it like CLL - a CE type queue. Actually separating it into a separate instance is understandably a bit complex if you understand environment building in games and would take them some time.
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