Difficult experience in Forked Tower – a reminder to respect public content

[0blivion]

FT is not roulette. Roulette is an actual queue with matching. In FT, you see who's on the platform ahead of time. You can choose to not be an antisocial leech when someone approaches you and tells you their prog point is to clear, and you are free to try to clear the high-end content with equally disruptive players such as yourself. But guess what? You won't find any, and if you do, you won't clear. You do not get to benefit off of an organized group if you didn't respect their efforts, and you will be left on the floor until you learn your lesson. If snipers multiply, people will simply stop doing the content or move DCs.

Also, most people in FT aren't in a static, and the fact that you think so shows how little you engaged with the content.

And guess what? You're not in their party or alliance, so they aren't against ToS in not ressing you.

[0blivion]

Genuine question on the rez restrictions though… that’s on the receiving end correct? Three rezzes/three strikes you’re out? So why deny a rez when someone will get kicked out anyway if they hit three? Totally understandable to prioritize rezzes to the more knowledgeable, but are they really denying rezzes to randoms out of fear that their next mistake could wipe the entire attempt? If it’s really that rough, this should be able to be queued…

That is correct. One mistake on boss 2 snowballs or boss 2 fireballs will wipe you, and ressing a random is a big risk.

Even hallways can wipe you because, a Rinon described, people like the OP apparently run into traps like headless chickens, which can wipe the entire raid if you're not careful.

[kyyninen_kirahvi]

FT is not roulette. Roulette is an actual queue with matching. In FT, you see who's on the platform ahead of time.

And it becomes a lottery the moment more people step on that platform or give ciphers. That is how it's designed and work right now. It's not good design, but that's how it works.

Party/alliance/static etiquette is different matter.

[AvoSturmfaust]

This isn't a PF, its a random entry system. If square wanted it to be a PF, then they would have done so. It isn't. Its like having a raid you can randomly queue into, that is what it is. Deal with it or quit. Harassing and griefing players is against TOS, and you will be handled accordingly. End of the story.

No not happen, i violate the ToS with Toxic behaviour on a daily base and get daily reported, not once did something happen, sorry to tell you but square doesnt really care, they do once a year something to set a example and thats it xD

[Carin-Eri]

And it becomes a lottery the moment more people step on that platform or give ciphers. That is how it's designed and work right now. It's not good design, but that's how it works.

Party/alliance/static etiquette is different matter.

And by all accounts the Tower of Magic will probably follow the same design. Which is a pity considering the conflict the already released first one is causing.

In fact, one can only hope that CBU3 take the feedback that is currently being submitted (via threads here and discussion on social media) onboard, because when your problem is created by repeatedly hitting yourself in the face, step one is to stop hitting yourself in the face instead of continuing to do so while announcing that you're well aware that a bloody nose is not optimal and are looking into ways to stop the bleeding.

[All_Nonsense]

No not happen, i violate the ToS with Toxic behaviour on a daily base and get daily reported, not once did something happen, sorry to tell you but square doesnt really care, they do once a year something to set a example and thats it xD

I hate to say it but they're right. If you don't believe them then report the toxic players and see what happens. Nothing. It's not worth the time, just blacklist like a normal person and move on. Meanwhile, I said the 4-letter "F word" a single time in say chat in casual conversation and I got in huge trouble with SE because someone in ERPville (Limsa Lominsa) decided it was too much for their fragile sensitivities and filed a report.

I'm not trying to shatter anyone's illusion, but SE doesn't care about anyone - not their players, not their employees, and sometimes I wonder if they even care about themselves. You can tell that they went into partial maintenance mode after EndWalker (6.0) was completed because everything since then has been half-effort, half-baked, shonen-pilled, tone-deaf, and a number of other hyphenated adjectives or adverbs I can't think of atm. It's a shame really. The core gameplay and things that make the game fun are systems that were designed by developers who loved and cared about the game over a decade ago. That system is still being used by the ones who don't anymore, so it gives the illusion that they do when in reality they honestly find any negative feedback an annoyance rather than a barometer. It feels like the dev team now are just "the new guard" struggling to get by while the "old guard" lord over them in lofty positions they were "promoted to" while doing zero actual work. And it shows immensely in the poor quality release after release after patch after patch. And it's not going to stop anytime soon. Such is the business culture in Japan.

[Themarvin]

You can't snipe a lottery. That much should be obvious. The resses (all three) should be the warning in this case. Sure, it sucks you couldn't get all your friends in but as stated before. You can't snipe a lottery. Not their fault. Blame Square and and play with the people you can at the moment.

I do hope the system changes but I think it won't.

The lottery is the best design by default mainly because the content is harder than what people make of it and it is more like the me first mentality kicking in when instead should be pushing more the zone being more available and the likes instead.

[0blivion]

"Me first mentality". Lol. Yeah, people wanna actually progress the fights? And MSQ Andy, who has not dodged a point blank in their life, let alone successfully done a gaze mechanic, is definitely only going to hold 47 people back by joining their party. Nobody wants to be at boss 4 and continuously wipe to boss 2 memes. That's why people organize according to prog point. And in discords, plenty of people who cleared run newbie runs to ensure everyone who put in the effort to communicate (and not step on their organizational work) gets a foot into the tower. Which you would know if you had done tower.

[Akivar]

What is the difference between checking a box in a menu and standing on a platform. They want to try the content, it is open to them, they get placed in the content if the system decides. It works the exact same. You do not get to pick the players you enter the instance with. Get over it.

It is not YOUR content, it is everyone's. As long as they are not intentionally griefing, they have every right to be there. They paid for its creation too. If you want to segregate off for your savage raids in little static parties the system allows you to. It does not allow you to for this content and you have no right to tell anyone else they can't try it. You are the one thinking you are entitles to the content without regards of what anyone else wants.

[All_Nonsense]

"Me first mentality". Lol. Yeah, people wanna actually progress the fights? And MSQ Andy, who has not dodged a point blank in their life, let alone successfully done a gaze mechanic, is definitely only going to hold 47 people back by joining their party. Nobody wants to be at boss 4 and continuously wipe to boss 2 memes. That's why people organize according to prog point. And in discords, plenty of people who cleared run newbie runs to ensure everyone who put in the effort to communicate (and not step on their organizational work) gets a foot into the tower. Which you would know if you had done tower.

Why are they designing field op content where 1 person can wipe a party of 48? Sounds like bad design to me. Never had an issue with DRS because surprise - you queued into it and there was a normal version of the raid for the "MSQ Andy" who didn't know what they were getting into. By extension of your argument this "MSQ Andy" would have successfully completed numerous mechanics in the 3 boss fights leading up to fight #4 that are far more difficult than a simple gaze or point-blank, and if they were truly that bad then they would have expended their 3 raises before then. Even when it came to Baldesion Arsenal one person couldn't wipe the raid outright, although someone sufficiently incompetent enough could make Ozma a pretty miserable experience (in which case don't raise them and let black hole take out the trash)

TL;DR Do your gatekeeping reps. That was just embarrassing to read.

EDIT: I can't spell