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    Kasumii's Avatar
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    Kasumi Sada
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    There is always a hole, like i said "no wall2wall" is actually griefing and can be reported, even if the tank is "unexperienced" so why wouldnt that be a reason to get reported? its always a matter of interpretation

    and btw being "bad" while still joining hard content which requires teamwork and coordination and a certain dps is actually griefing

    I mean if were pulling out the ToS:

    Calling someone "bad" itself is actually against ToS if you ever bothered to read them: https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216

    "Making statements intended to belittle someone, such as "you can't do [something], maybe this is just not possible for you?" If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

    It is prohibited for groups of players to target and ridicule a specific player. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

    * The above act involves an excessive amount of criticism/condemnation. Players may not denounce another player. If you feel a player is causing an issue, please file a report."

    As well as:

    "・Expressions that attempt to unilaterally exclude someone from the game or content/community, etc.
    (Except when in accordance with rules set by an administrator such as a Free Company Master)
    Key Points
    It is prohibited to make statements such as the following examples to try to kick someone from the party, content, community, etc. as if they are not qualified to participate. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

    "If you can't do the mechanic well, maybe you shouldn't bother joining the party."
    "If you're going to talk like that, why don't you just quit?"
    "If you don't understand that, you'd be wise to leave the party."
    "Let's ignore them."
    "Let’s leave [person] out."
    "It's not worth wasting our time, you should quit."
    "Don't join if your equipment is that bad/such a low item level."


    Please note that Square Enix may issue a penalty in its discretion even if a report has not been filed but the act was found being conducted in public areas such as Say and Shout, search comments, Party Finder, or online video/streaming services.
    "

    I think this last part is especially important for the discussion at hand because IT QUITE LITERALLY STATES IN THE TOS THAT YOU CANNOT JUST EXCLUDE PEOPLE.
    And I would advocate ANYONE (especially OP in this case) to actually report groups that treat you like this for wanting to join FT. Just because you are a random does not mean you are not as important as the other players. You can always redirect those calling you a sniper to the ToS.

    Final edit:
    About this section in the ToS:

    ・Aiding the enemy / Uncooperative behavior / Lethargic behavior
    Refers to an act of performing actions that give an advantage to an enemy (monsters, or the opposing team/players in PvP content) by not performing the necessary gameplay required of the situation. This may be combined with combat sabotage as well.
    Key Points
    Each player has a different level of skill, and in some cases, there may be a situation where the duty/content will fail. From the perspective of a skilled player in such a situation, a less skilled player may appear to be "adversarial/uncooperative/apathetic," but even if this is the case, it is not a violation as long as the player is playing appropriately.


    If a random simply joins your run and tries their best and then wipes you (at the traps or whatever) then guess what: they still havent done anything wrong since they are trying their best. I really don't know why everyone is acting so elitist when they know full well they have no ground to stand on and no real reason to keep randoms away from their little clique. As long as they don't act malicious (and taking a spot isnt being malicious, they are simply playing the cipher lottery like the devs intended) and try their best.
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    Last edited by Kasumii; 06-19-2025 at 04:09 PM.