Quote Originally Posted by Bryson View Post
you can't have it both ways
you think randoms are entitled to a raise by others in a premade, but also the randoms shouldn't a. study or b. join the discord to ensure they're on the same page as everyone else?
you know the very same people that allowed for the random to even get inside FT in the first place.. cause the random isn't offering up 16 ciphers themselves.

how is the random getting inside FT, unless they rely on members of the premade to offer ciphers

do tell
They aren't in part because discord gatekeepers have created an environment wherein the whole OC instance is scared to pug the raid as it was designed btw. It is a pug entry design like cll and dalriada, it's not a premade entry design. At any rate it's pretty expected and normal for unsuspecting randoms to try enter the raid when a lot of people suddenly show up on the platform. Being hostile to them and calling them snipers and wanting to murder and not raise them , is still a choice.