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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    Hold square enix accountable absolutely. But until then your choice is play with the systems of the game, and dint be so arrogant as to assume your need to clear out make better progress NOW, it's more important than someone else's desire to see as much of the fight as possible and make the best of it.
    Your such with the system as it is.
    If the hand lets them in they are supposed to be there, and your are expected to play collaboratively within the spirit of the ToS.
    Or go play another game if that's not good enough. Which i fully sympathise is probably not.
    But you don't get to make people feel shitty and manipulate them into thinking they have no real right to be in place that they DO.
    Manipulative, selfish, sociopathic BS.
    And no it's not selfish to want to play the a bit of the game with ToS, as opposed to how it is selfish to redirect to get to play 'all' the game at the expense of others being left with nothing.
    Just go play another game or complain to SE, but don't manipulate your fellow paying players.
    You can’t force other people to play with you under threat of the TOS. They are well within their right to simply leave if they don’t want you there. There are many instances open and anyone is welcome to attempt to start a forked run in any instance, you aren’t entitled to other people’s time if they don’t want to run with you. They can’t actually grief you but they don’t have to actively engage with you either and it’s not manipulating or anything of the sort to simply decide you don’t want to deal with said people

    Quote Originally Posted by itachi-otsutsuki View Post
    Then blame SE not the players. What you are doing is just shifting blame to randoms making use of an entrance system that spawns in their instance. That is what I call gatekeeping. Discord is a third party tool and should not be forced upon people. Which is exactly what these groups are doing. Join the discord, or gtfo of our instance. Meanwhile acting like the thing is well designed and creating a false image of the huge problem with this design, cause they literally own the content.
    Literally nobody is saying this is well designed entry system. The discords are trying to make it work in the only way they can make it work, because if 48 random people step onto the platform and open the portal then they will achieve nothing inside

    The discords aren’t devious Mafia rings laughing they get to “control” the content, they are trying to clear it the only way that’s viable to clear it
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 06-17-2025 at 12:17 AM.