Phantom Jobs are a step in the right direction but need iteration.

[Yamadronis]

Do people really have trouble with lost actions? I play bozja casually and along the way I got enough (relevant) lost actions for 3/4 of total relic weapons. I only needed to buy from MB about 3 or 4 times, and their prices were pretty cheap as well. Unless you're attempting to do delubrum savage, you don't really need to grind for those lost actions.

Believe it or not, yes. There was a time when a ton of people were having trouble with it. Certainly they weren't as nasty to get as some logograms, but they can be tough to farm alone, and for a while you had gil farmers monopolizing spawns in instances rendering people unable to acquire them except via gil. Some players don't do Adventurer in Need and have significantly less gil. Some spend their gil on cosmetics. Some help their FC mates by buying or making them gear. There are plenty of reasons a player might not have enough gil to feel comfortable spending it on a needlessly huge stack of lost actions.

More to the point, the way those items were set up triggered the very common Item Goblin Syndrome, where players felt they had to reserve their most ideal or most fun or rarest combinations of lost actions for content where it really mattered. The reality of how replenishable the supply is doesn't really factor into a person's hoarding instinct, and it diminishes the experience. This is why you don't see too many people playing Chemist or Samurai on Occult Crescent but see a TON of Cannoneers and Berserkers. The first two require an investment of consumables and there are other options with similar utility or damage for less constant investment.

[Supersnow845]

Believe it or not, yes. There was a time when a ton of people were having trouble with it. Certainly they weren't as nasty to get as some logograms, but they can be tough to farm alone, and for a while you had gil farmers monopolizing spawns in instances rendering people unable to acquire them except via gil. Some players don't do Adventurer in Need and have significantly less gil. Some spend their gil on cosmetics. Some help their FC mates by buying or making them gear. There are plenty of reasons a player might not have enough gil to feel comfortable spending it on a needlessly huge stack of lost actions.

More to the point, the way those items were set up triggered the very common Item Goblin Syndrome, where players felt they had to reserve their most ideal or most fun or rarest combinations of lost actions for content where it really mattered. The reality of how replenishable the supply is doesn't really factor into a person's hoarding instinct, and it diminishes the experience. This is why you don't see too many people playing Chemist or Samurai on Occult Crescent but see a TON of Cannoneers and Berserkers. The first two require an investment of consumables and there are other options with similar utility or damage for less constant investment.

The reason you don’t see anyone playing chemist or samurai is because those jobs don’t do anything

If I wanted a class that couldn’t do anything but raise id play a healer and samurai decided “Gil toss” was enough to build a phantom job around

Like at least oracle kinda makes you think

[Yamadronis]

The reason you don’t see anyone playing chemist or samurai is because those jobs don’t do anything

If I wanted a class that couldn’t do anything but raise id play a healer and samurai decided “Gil toss” was enough to build a phantom job around

Like at least oracle kinda makes you think

I strongly disagree in some respects. I think playing around with the Chemist rez on With Extreme Prejudice is some of the most fun I've had in occult crescent, and if it didn't cost a tremendous amount of resources and grind to do so, I'd openly spend encounters looking for people to spam potions and ethers at. Samurai is is a bit of a less clear case. Its cleave can be nice in a few critical engagements and its parry has some occasional fun use cases that can change how you engage with an encounter, like parrying the tentacles in scourge of the mind or the half room cleave in The Unbridled. Its stun, of course, does absolutely nothing to CE and fate bosses and might as well not exist.