Dawntrail Doomposting Megathread

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Clearly the Players Fault, i give you an example VIPER the change they did 4 Weeks after the Release of DT

You had one camp which doesnt like the change and cried about it vs the camp which liked the change

Exactly. Another example is the newest thread that was just made: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...and-is-not-fun

If SE makes OC "done in a day", people will complain there is nothing to do and no reason to subscribe. If SE makes OC grindy and keep people there for a while, they are accused of trying to retain subs or of making a grind that lasts more than a day. They literally can't win. No matter what they do, players will complain about it.

Personally, I think they should try where possible to have a middleground for both types of players if they can. They have usually achieved making things grindy by having the grinds be optional for things like mounts and that has worked (except for the people who ignore mounts as a reward then complain there's nothing to do). Or with a choice between "easy" and "hard" modes of everything from gameplay to content.

But they still won't satisfy everyone. That is why the director of an MMO must know who to listen to, and who to ignore. Yoshi-P has said he understands that it's his job to figure that out. But really, how many MMO directors actually get this perfectly right? It becomes increasingly hard to do so as the playerbase becomes more noisy and like this:

This is an extremely flawed conclusion. You've essentially listed anyone who wasn't complaining as "happy" with some variation here or there.

I don't go out of my way to criticise the game in random shout chat. I do that here or on FFXIV/discussion

Maybe. My point wasn't necessarily to say that everyone is happy, but rather to say they seem to be having fun in the game itself, not expressing unhappiness with the game in the game itself, or outright defending/pushing back against criticism in the game itself.

And my reason for putting this example was because a lot of people were saying everyone in the game was equally as unhappy about the game as on these forums. Yet, not only do I not see that in the PUGs I join on a very regular basis, but I don't even hardly see it in a large field zone with a large amount of players contributing their thoughts.

So I'm forced to speculate that these players who apparently express dissatisfaction inside the game either unsubscribed, don't engage with content much due to not liking it (which could ironically be contributing to their feelings), or the experiences are within their specific FC (which can often be players in a similar boat, for example, they could be a group of friends or long-time players with similar thoughts and values).