Silver pieces vs Gold pieces earning

[Kozh]

you can always start your own pf. Theres always something which is the very best setup and people will ALWAYS go for that, no matter what it is

It's not about the PF itself (I can join them, and I do plan to make my own PF soon), but my comment is more about how the devs once again designed content that can be trivialized by tanks. Or to be more specific, by WAR OP self healing. It was like this back during bozja as well.

[Infindox]

The meta groups make PF a hit or miss, because I can assure you there are people joining those that have no idea how to use WAR properly, die, and then the entire party doesn't last for more then 20-30 mins.

[Alahard]

The problem isn't the amount each activity gives.

The problem is gold farming is just infinitely more boring than silver.

[ServerCollaps]

It's not about the PF itself (I can join them, and I do plan to make my own PF soon), but my comment is more about how the devs once again designed content that can be trivialized by tanks. Or to be more specific, by WAR OP self healing. It was like this back during bozja as well.

so, how would you solve the issue? you cant delete tanks from the game as they are


also just play tank yourself, if you want to be one of the cool kids. Leveling it takes no time, you dont even need gear inside

[Supersnow845]

so, how would you solve the issue? you cant delete tanks from the game as they are


also just play tank yourself, if you want to be one of the cool kids. Leveling it takes no time, you dont even need gear inside

The issue is the way gold farming as a concept is structured because it can be cheesed by invulns (which is exactly what it does)

As a stopgap solution you could just make enemies that are over 6 knowledge levels above you hit through invulns which removes the tank Strat (I’m not saying this would be fun but it would return the design to the “intended” chaining of normal mobs)

But really gold should be built around something to do with distribution and use of phantom jobs. Like thief sorta has something but imagine if you got gold pieces based on geos bell stacks or oracle could proc a gold fountain prophecy. Silver should level phantom jobs to funnel into gold farming, not nuke it with overpowered tanks

[Arkdra]

The problem isn't the amount each activity gives.

The problem is gold farming is just infinitely more boring than silver.

Yeah this is the problem. I get why they do it; the entire conceit of these zones initially was let's make some content that appeals to the lunatics who played EQ/FF11 and in those games, going off somewhere to camp mobs was the thing to do. I spent my time in those mines and I really don't want to go back for any reason. I didn't want to chain mobs to spawn nms in Eureka (and I didn't). I didn't want to farm crystals in bozja, but I did it anyway like a fool. And I didn't want to farm enough gold to clear out the cash shop here, but I still did because I remain a fool.

SE just knock it off with the trash grinding already.

[Valence]

Once again the devs completely missed the inherent power of the tanks allowing for the canoneer strat to work as well as it does

If you do the 1 mob at a time chain with maybe thief then the distribution of silver vs gold is roughly even. The canonneer strat just makes gold farming incredibly easy

I think honestly that it's more lopsided on the vendor side. There is so much less stuff behind gold and I feel that everything I can have as a goal is firmly locked behind silver... So much silver.

so, how would you solve the issue? you cant delete tanks from the game as they are


also just play tank yourself, if you want to be one of the cool kids. Leveling it takes no time, you dont even need gear inside

Genius. Instead of fixing the problem, we all should move to benefit from the problem.

The problem isn't the amount each activity gives.

The problem is gold farming is just infinitely more boring than silver.

A funny question of perspectives I guess. I have the literal opposite view. Not that I do enjoy gold farming, I've actually had my fill recently and I barely have 4 phantoms mastered, but at least it felt kinda chill and ten times less excruciating painful than running everywhere on the map non stop and when I could finally stop it was to eat those stupid, lag infested DDR fiestas that CEs are.

[VeyaAkemi]

A funny question of perspectives I guess. I have the literal opposite view. Not that I do enjoy gold farming, I've actually had my fill recently and I barely have 4 phantoms mastered, but at least it felt kinda chill and ten times less excruciating painful than running everywhere on the map non stop and when I could finally stop it was to eat those stupid, lag infested DDR fiestas that CEs are.

I am honestly in agreement with Alahard, the thing is that gold grinding is basically dungeon pulls, but kinda spicy and also even shorter, while CEs are incredibly fun fights to me, sure they lag a tad, it's something I wish that would get fixed without me needing to upgrade my computer that runs the rest of the game just fine because it is very much a player count issue, but that doesn't impede my enjoyment of them, they hit a specific spot of "just fast enough" and "just deadly enough" to feel thrilling, even if by now I could do most of them blindfolded.

You have no idea the smile that I got on my face when I got into my first CE and was able to go "...wait, that killed me... so easily too...".

[TaleraRistain]

CEs should just award a small amount of gold along with the normal silver. That way there are multiple options.

Gold farming massively favors solo tanks or groups with high amounts of tanks at max level. It's very unfriendly to mixed level parties that aren't 8 people. I was trying to gold farm a bit with some friends with myself at 20 and another 20, one 16, and one 12 to get the gold bought jobs. We did balanced party and had to hit level 18 mobs because we couldn't even get gold from anything lower. And the level 12 and even the 16 weren't helping as much on level 18 mobs. Level sync was a good idea but they should have people actually be able to *do* things and be rewarded for it when they use it.

[DoubleJustice]

The problem isn't the amount each activity gives.

The problem is gold farming is just infinitely more boring than silver.

I actually think the amount each activity gives is very important here. In 2 hours of gold farming, you can buy out a very large portion of the gold shop. To purchase a single set(not even +1) of gear from the silver chop requires 3-4x that. That's 6-8 hours of farming the exact same fates and ces on repeat. Are the CE's overall more fun than trading invulns and pressing cannoner on mobs? The first 5 or so times sure, but then you realize you have over a 100 more to go. Nothing in the world, especially nothing as mind numbingly repeptitive as farming fates/ces is, remains fun over the period of time that you currently need to spend on it. Meanwhile by the time the novelty of omegaluling on max level mobs in an 8 man war/cannoneer party ends, I'm over halfway done on the gold grind, pushing through to finish it is closer to a victory lap than anything else. But silver? Frankly it's not worth the time. I'll wait for them to increase amount of silver gained or slash prices on the silver vendor items. If neither of those things happen then it'll just make the decision to renew my sub or not easier to make.