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  1. #21
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    Kozh's Avatar
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    Corvo Aerden
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    Kujata
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    so, how would you solve the issue? you cant delete tanks from the game as they are


    also just play tank yourself, if you want to be one of the cool kids. Leveling it takes no time, you dont even need gear inside
    I do play tank lol (also, tank is far from the cool kids considering it's the easiest role). Idk why you keep missing the point. It's just boring when the meta strat is once again "go WAR, invulns the mob, self heal, repeat". I guess they try to shake things up with the phantom jobs, but aside from canoneer and thief (and maybe oracle with the starfall), the rest aren't relevant for gold farming.

    Imo Supersnow845 suggestion is very nice. Would be interesting if gold farm is more influenced by the phantom jobs effect. Better if Freelancer has customizable cross skills from mastered phantom jobs, which encourage people to level them all. Yes, I understand that eventually there will be the Meta-est Strat, but idk, at least there will be more options and probably more fun.
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  2. #22
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    Wind-up Everyone
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    Zodiark
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    Arcanist Lv 52
    Starfall and comet both do considerable chunks of damage to the mobs. I’ve been in a party where the invuln wasn’t needed when seraphism was up, I’ve been in single pulling parties circling the ziggurat peak. If the arquebus gear augmented defence (as with the blue rays and elemental wheel) I think the accepted strategies wouldn’t be as narrow. Steal not being aoe vs mug doesn’t help it feel like it’s taking as much advantage of the phantom jobs as it could - but I also don’t think every job having a way to increase gold drops would solve this either. Interactions would be preferable - bell stacks increasing the amount stolen by thf/angrybird raising the amount that can be dropped/silver ball converting x gold to silver etc.

    I also suspect that the annihilation of all value from coffer drops has in part funnelled people towards gold farming for the marketboardable 2b legs2 and the cool coat since there’s few other ways to make gil in OC.
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  3. #23
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    Gumi Gumimi
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I opened this thread mostly because to buy gear that kinda works outside and is probably bis in OC you need the silver pieces.
    But you also need them to buy the upgrade materials which is 3600 pieces total each piece (almost doubling its price).
    And! You can use it to buy some glamour items and occult potions / coffers for chemist / samurai, and don't forget the ciphers!

    I remember that in Bozja, once you could do CLL, you'd get a good amount of bronze coins, used only for gear. Sure, it was a real grind if you wanted to augment that to get stronger, but that currency wasn't used for almost everything you needed.

    I think if it's silver for a LOT of stuff, we should get way more
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  4. #24
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    honestly I join gold group in the OC itself most just yolo but I do agree that CE should give 50 gold at least because well I need to grind those for the last 3 PH job x)
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  5. #25
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    I did a 6 WAR 2 Healer / 8 Cannoneer gold farm PT over the weekend. It was all "new players" to gold farming, except for maybe 1. Once we got into a cadence, it was absurd. I'd be willing to try other options so I don't have to get in a party with 8 people. My main issue with a full party is that it seems like no one is able to put aside more than 20 minutes to farm gold. I know we all have life responsibilities, but maybe if you don't have more than 20 minutes, go do your roulettes or something that is easily timeboxed. This situation reminds of FFXI parties back in the early 00s. Spend time putting a party together, get where you have to go, then who needs to leave to see their girlfriend, who's cat is on fire, who has ICE at the door, who's toes are cold, etc.
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  6. #26
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    Gyson Kincaid
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    I would just say that acquiring gold coins is incredibly slow for individuals or couples who don't want to join a gold coin farming group, particularly when first starting out. Without a dedicated healer the mobs are tackled one at a time, and the kill speed is just under the chain decay rate, so while chains can be maintained the rewards over time are still pitiful.

    And yet that same individual or couple can hop into a FATE or CE and amass a large amount of silver coins easily and quickly. The balance just seems off, and joining a gold farming group with a gimmick should not be required for this process to work reasonably well.
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  7. #27
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    Ranhansha's Avatar
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    Ranhansha Ootsuki
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    Ragnarok
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CCheshire View Post
    TBF, they said we have 2+ months to go for new content later.
    We have maaaaany more months. The question is: Is it fun though? Would you like to grind the same 10 Fates for 10 months?
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  8. #28
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranhansha View Post
    We have maaaaany more months. The question is: Is it fun though? Would you like to grind the same 10 Fates for 10 months?
    Exactly. I finally got the final Demiatmas for my first relic, and I was so bored with it by that point, I don't know if I can make myself go back to grind gold coins, even thought I really want the two glamour outfits.
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    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

  9. #29
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    Mikon Chozo
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Exactly. I finally got the final Demiatmas for my first relic, and I was so bored with it by that point, I don't know if I can make myself go back to grind gold coins, even thought I really want the two glamour outfits.
    masspulling and nuking lvl 28 mobs that oneshot most people is fun to do imo. It would be nice if the map had more spots than just one, so that you could alternate enemies
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  10. #30
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    masspulling and nuking lvl 28 mobs that oneshot most people is fun to do imo. It would be nice if the map had more spots than just one, so that you could alternate enemies
    The fact there is only one spot to do 28 is definitely annoying

    You can technically chain 27 with a full party of 20’s but you don’t get the bonus above a chain of 20 where it gives you 50% more gold (10->12 vs 16-18) which makes it way less desirable

    So everyone ends up fighting over the one level where the fire guys are because it’s the only place to effectively chain 28’s
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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