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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    Accessible to who? Raiders? Maybe. Not to the casual/midcore player base. The entry requirements, the need to be on a discord, the phantom job requirements (even if the raider portion of the raid picks this up), all of this will push the casual/midcore players away from attempting it. I really don't understand how CBU3 thought that BA was the model to go back to, instead of CLL/Dal. Especially for the first raid on the first release of OC.

    I have no doubts that none of this would be addressed but, I would love if YoshiP explained some of the logic behind their design, in the next LL.
    Accessible in the sense that they won't require as much prog/attempts to get a clear. A friend of mine for example that doesn't do current raiding content got her BA and DRS clears on the first try with the help of discord groups once the content had been out for a awhile and experienced players were making groups to help newbies clear.

    I agree that the CLL/Dal model would be better. SE clearly intends for the content to be done by pickup groups in the zone with the way the entry system works but that's just not how players enjoy tackling content with a high chance of failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    Sorry but I am not grinding out phantom job levels for a piece of content a may or may not be able to access later. If they want us to level up these low effort attempts at subjobs they need to make doing other things in the zone a lot more worth the while or double to triple the amount of exp they get per CE/fate. I only had 2 at level cap by the time I was 20, and 3 by the time I had all my demimateria. atm there are 12 phantom jobs that you need to grind and there is no way I'm going to grind 9 more up on the off chance they may be useful in 6 months for exactly 1 piece of content that will be dead completely in 8.0 if not before. And with more phantom jobs coming in future patchesm it only makes matters worse. Exactly why I didn't bother with blu too.

    This whole piece of content really makes you stop and wonder how some ppl got their jobs in the first place.
    No need to do something you don't enjoy.
    I don't expect the content to be completely dead in a few months though. Discord groups still run BA and DRS to this day.
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    Last edited by Moomba33; 06-09-2025 at 10:28 AM.