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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I honestly hope not. This happens with savage and extremes and I don't like how it reduces some really good raids into a mindless afk chatroom farm.
    Sort of agreed, I wouldn't be interested in doing it in easy mode. I'd rather just wait until it appears in another mind numbing moogle event.

    Then again, when I now see someone on a Chaotic or a Savage mount I assume they just doing it to piss casuals off and they are an unpleasant person. It used to be this stuff was a flex and I admired the achievement. Lately I just thought probably a"dick-head" that thinks I should get gud or unsub. And when I see an ultimate weapon, I actually just assume 'probably a cheat'. It's kind of like how I feel when I see a tesla now. Except people who bought a Tesla before Elon revealed he was nasty lunatic don't have choice. High end players do have choice to exercise personal awareness.

    Carry on though some people enjoy using any power they have to make people feel even a little bit shit. That's people, you just gotta live with it. The XIV community is nothing special anymore.
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 06-08-2025 at 06:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    Then again, when I now see someone on a Chaotic or a Savage mount I assume they just doing it to piss casuals off and they are an unpleasant person.
    Have you considered, and this may sound insane, that they just think the mount is cool? People are very much allowed to do things for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    Have you considered, and this may sound insane, that they just think the mount is cool? People are very much allowed to do things for themselves.
    Seriously lmao, I've been using my Shroud mount since I finally got it because I simply want to use the cool mount I ground out 40+ fights for pity tokens, "flexing on casuals" isn't even in my thoughts.
    But also the guy you quoted isn't worth engaging with at all, his bit is exhausting.


    Also to stay on topic, I agree with what someone said a few posts up - if Chaotic stays in the Raid Finder (which it likely will) then the odds of it being unsyncable are uh... probably zero! Which honestly, is fine, some high-end content should stay as something you need to actually, ykno, practice and learn. You can buy most of the rewards if you don't want to actually learn the fight, and if you want the untradeable loot enough then you can likely find it within yourself to lock in and prog and learn it. There's at least 2 discords I know of that host regular learning parties, there are people out there keeping the content alive and actively really wanting more people to learn it (because it's a fun and pretty well-designed fight!), you just need to actually exert a bit of effort into finding the resources to do the content.
    Or you can throw a tantrum about ~discord gatekeeping~ like people in here enjoy doing, and learn nothing, and get no rewards. That works too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    Have you considered, and this may sound insane, that they just think the mount is cool? People are very much allowed to do things for themselves.
    I agree. I think the point is I've just become so damaged with cynicism. I acknowledge it's pure sad. They might be someone who is just really proud of their first highend mount. The savage equivalent of a sprout.
    But my mind now just goes first to, "probably one of those people who wrote my party of as progliars and bailed after 2 pulls, utterly wasting the hour and a half I spent hoping this Chaotic would fill." (sometimes 3 hours)
    The whole situation and business is pathetic in the true sense of the word.
    It's SE thats torn the community apart.
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 06-12-2025 at 05:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    "probably one of those people who wrote my party of as progliars and bailed after 2 pulls, utterly wasting the hour and a half I spent hoping this Chaotic would fill." (sometimes 3 hours).
    Thats what you get for beign late to the party, everyone knew this was a dead raid once the new content drops.
    Nobody needs the gear that drops in there, it looks rather bad except for the tank set.

    The fight is a pain in the butt to progg because of how easy you can wipe from mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Thats what you get for beign late to the party, everyone knew this was a dead raid once the new content drops.
    Nobody needs the gear that drops in there, it looks rather bad except for the tank set.

    The fight is a pain in the butt to progg because of how easy you can wipe from mistakes.
    No that was day 3.
    I put 5 hours in and netted less than an hour and a halfs playtime. I wasnt doing anything else, it was solid. Pretty easy to be aware of the time.
    I got to the end of the day and I just did not feel good.
    I had not had fun at all.
    In fact I can actually say it was the 2nd worst gaming experience I've ever had.
    Made 0 progress further than I made on day 1.
    (Skipped day 2. Some culturally insensitive SOB released it over Christmas. Actual Christmas.)
    It was late to the race to be fair but the time it was taking 3 hours to queue in. But more like 3 to never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    No that was day 3.
    I put 5 hours in and netted less than an hour and a halfs playtime. I wasnt doing anything else, it was solid. Pretty easy to be aware of the time.
    I got to the end of the day and I just did not feel good.
    I had not had fun at all.
    In fact I can actually say it was the 2nd worst gaming experience I've ever had.
    Made 0 progress further than I made on day 1.
    (Skipped day 2. Some culturally insensitive SOB released it over Christmas. Actual Christmas.)
    It was late to the race to be fair but the time it was taking 3 hours to queue in. But more like 3 to never.
    Party Finder could be absolutely brutal for Chaotic, but the fight was worth it. Some of the most fun I've had in FFXIV. Probably helped in my case that Crystal had a lot of parties up for it at the start and Crystal DC culture tends to not have people bail so fast on PF parties. I did do a lot of DC traveling, but making note of the people who put up PFs that I had good experiences with their parties helped too.

    The Dais of Darkness is an awesome mount and the Clouddark Armor if Fending is an awesome glam for tanks.
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