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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    Broadly tanks do have a vastly easier time in OC and I have absolutely no idea why the mastery bonus doesn't also raise defence, there were rays of fortitude that raised max hp in zadnor which bringing here would at least acknowledge the issue. They could make it so the tank mastery damage down applies to the OC actions too, but that's not really going to make too much difference, dps dying due to lack of healing and the soft incentive to let people deathloop to farm raises for the achievement doesn't help their damage output.

    Healers do get to enjoy healing mounting damage from the permavulns though
    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Agreed - but I'll add - where Healers are concerned - we're not really even there for that either since Chemists can throw raises out too.
    These two are the crux of it I think.
    I don’t mind jobs becoming overpowered in there, in fact I think they didn’t went far enough with the phantom jobs even.
    I enjoyed tanking on BLM in Bozja or having infinite instant casting with unlimited mana.
    It’s these shenigans that made it so much fun to do.

    My problem is mostly that tanks automatically do that in there while all others struggle to even survive.
    They can ignore mechanics as soon as they get in the zone because they are just naturally overpowered nowadays.

    Either let all mix and match the skills to become bonkers or let no one do that to keep them in line and encourage teamwork because the gold farm groups actively start to exclude all non tanks or even non warriors right now.

    Just my opinion on it because I am getting annoyed in seeing all tank groups in every content that is not savage upwards and I think tanks need a huge nerf across the board (if not in survivability then at least a huge drop in their damage to discourage them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    My problem is mostly that tanks automatically do that in there while all others struggle to even survive.
    have you tried not getting hit by avoidable boss attacks?

    If you are new to the bossfights a tank is recommended to not be dead all the time, but once you know all the fights you really shouldn't have much problems as a dps.
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    Last edited by Arohk; 06-03-2025 at 10:24 PM.

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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    have you tried not getting hit by avoidable boss attacks?

    If you are new to the bossfights a tank is recommended to not be dead all the time, but once you know all the fights you really shouldn't have much problems as a dps.
    The point they're making is tanks can basically eat vuln stacks like candy and it doesn't matter. Heck, I've deliberately collected them to keep Geomancer's Bell going. You're so comically overpowered as a tank that it's kind of absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    The point they're making is tanks can basically eat vuln stacks like candy and it doesn't matter. Heck, I've deliberately collected them to keep Geomancer's Bell going. You're so comically overpowered as a tank that it's kind of absurd.
    In fairness, "tank privilege" has been a thing since time began, it's just more noticeable when you add force multipliers like the phantom jobs.
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