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[TheInsomniac13]

It's frustrating how many interviews from 2021 to 2024 amount to "We're gonna rest on our laurels, now pay up".

In another thread I asked about what even keeps people in this game, and most answered sunken cost, friends, they don´t want to loose the house they gambeld on even though they do not really play anymore or they enjoy the RP scene in this game aka. conection with the other players... only a fraction sayed they enjoyed the Highend Raiding scene or were early enough in the game to have still enjoyable side content to look forward to.

So as it stands gear is streamlined into meaninglessness the only reason to farm anything is for glams.
Gameplay is extreamly seamy with as it feels clear aim to funnel players into the endgame content which the devs seem to see as Raiding.
More and more Glamours and emoted (and mounts) get introduced into the game which are imersion breaking. Early on the highest tech we are introduced is magitec and all we ever get to use is created by Cid a Garlean deserte while Garleans are know for there Magitec... thats the lore that get´s established... meanwhile some one coming into the game for the first time now sees dozen players in effin space suits taking selfies on there smartphone and flying around in there NASA mechs.

I am sorry for drawing compersion but streamlined gear, game desinge changes meant to funnel players fast into the endgame, and immersion ignoring skins that can or cannot be bought in the cash shop.
FF 14 more and more resembels one of these nearly dead MMORPGs you can free to play which have the only Aim to milk there remaining Whales. I think Terra was basicly that bevore it was shut down.
And seeing that we are player number wise we move to pre Shadowbringer numbers I think the game starts to become exactly that typ of game. Don´t misunderstand me it will take years till we hit that state... but seeing the devs not seeing the need to improve anymore makes that point unavoidable.

[BunnyBrat]

The moment were you start calling people alt right you push them into a politicized box that already prelabeld for your mental hate image. It do´s not proof the agrument of the person wrong though. And I constantly see shit like that heck my own Goverment do´s shit like this everyone who do´s not share the world view... just lable them a Nazi then any point they mention is suddenly wortles right?!

If you are unable to bring an actual argument to a topic outside of insults then excuse me but your opinion is worthless and has not furthered this conversation.

The only thing there is to say to people like this is Arguing with a fool only proofs there are two. Better yourself or people will keep looking down on you.

Reading is fundamental. I made an observation about where the convo was going. I don't care to make an argument about a fake accessibility issue.

[AllenThyl]

Oh yes, I know, I don't recall you ever advocating for the game being some kind of "hardcore-only" playground or anything like that, I was just pointing out that until encounter design is changed, we can't really expect any jobs to become more dynamic than they are as it's the encounter design that keeps forcing homogenization to occur, or how these changes have been completely at the discretion of Square-Enix based on some unknown metric or plan and not the fault of any specific part of the playerbase.

You are someone who by own admission already struggles with normal content, with the current "braindead" job design, what hope do you think you will have if future job design will actually require more decision making on the spot, more apm, more double weaving, more resource management? You are, again by own admission (and by the screenshot you posted when you purposefully threw a Frontline match because some other team had a "premade"), barely average in PvP, which already comes with a reduced ability set for classes and requires more strategic thinking. You, personally, are literally the target audience for the easy job design and barely engaging encounter design in normal content. If the game was any harder, you would be hard walled from story progression

In another thread I asked about what even keeps people in this game, and most answered sunken cost, friends, they don´t want to loose the house they gambeld on even though they do not really play anymore or they enjoy the RP scene in this game aka. conection with the other players... only a fraction sayed they enjoyed the Highend Raiding scene or were early enough in the game to have still enjoyable side content to look forward to.

Because people who generally like the game stay away from the forums, since this is pretty much a cesspool of negativity and posers. People who have done absolutely nothing in this game, but fill every single thread about every topic with their unfounded "opinions" and "hot takes". I mean, you yourself strut around here with your hot takes about job and encounter design, but the absolute lack of any specific examples in all your posts pretty much gives it away that you have no experience with playing any class at high level or having done any high-end duty.

So as it stands gear is streamlined into meaninglessness the only reason to farm anything is for glams.

Spoken like someone who never ever engaged in any high-end duties.

Gameplay is extreamly seamy with as it feels clear aim to funnel players into the endgame content which the devs seem to see as Raiding.

A) no one is "funneled" into anything, the game gives out catch up gear like candies, compared to other games in the genre where people have to grind through previous content to even stand a chance
B) Raiding is a staple activity of this kind of genre and has been for decades. People who don't do any of the content where gear makes a measurable difference have no need for gear that makes a measurable difference.

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Oh Valence, since you are here, what happened to your argument of "experience something to give a valid opinion", given that this thread is full of people who obviously never in their life have ever seen a high-end duty from the inside, but still give their endless takes on job and encounter design? What is that, doesn't matter, you aren't arguing in good faith anyway and are happy to piggyback meaningless statements so long as it fits your agenda? Yeah, thought so.

[TheInsomniac13]

You seem to consider the opinions of everyone who has not cleared all High tire raids as invalide guss what many players do not care for Raiding. I personaly stumbled through the ARR Extream Raids and Heavensward by using Partyfinder and I cleared first Coils of Bahamut synced.
And I found the entrie expirience misserable. Just because I critecize your sacred cow do´s not mean my critique is invalide.
I have leveld all jobs to 100 I can all jobes reliably and I do not care for a 2 Minuets groupe buff rotation which turns DDR into a coreographed and planned stage pervormance.

But you cannot denies that the player Numbers keep going down and no it is not just players playing different stuff till the next patch drops, Numbers are starting to dip below Pre Shadowbringer which should be a wakeup call how little players feel engaged by the game at this point.

[Bubblesong]

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So you expect for someone to get enjoyment in the game, to have something that makes them feel like they are playing a game to do around 350+ hours of msq then around 3 weeks of spamming rouletts to get the gear, and the melding done to get that 1% of the game where anything matters to run lol,

Can you not see how that a screwed up stance that nothing else in the game means anything, everything has to be drolling short bus gameplay for over 350 hours + forced to grind tombstone's weekly in that brain-dead nonsense, in order to do that 1% lol


That logic basicly is telling everyone gaming you should pay a rmt website to do everything else for you and get the tome gear for you, so you have the gear to do the "savage and ultima" since that the only part of the game that means anything everything else is just drolling down your face like a damn zombie going through it, that logic you have basically is saying RMT is fine as long as it not paying the savage and ultima its 100% fine lol (its not but im just saying that logic you and people like you have is 100% saying just rmt 98% of the game

[Valence]

More and more Glamours and emoted (and mounts) get introduced into the game which are imersion breaking. Early on the highest tech we are introduced is magitec and all we ever get to use is created by Cid a Garlean deserte while Garleans are know for there Magitec... thats the lore that get´s established... meanwhile some one coming into the game for the first time now sees dozen players in effin space suits taking selfies on there smartphone and flying around in there NASA mechs.

The progression of mindset there is actually amusing to watch. During HW the devs were still stubbornly unwilling to give flight to a lot of mounts that "weren't meant to fly and would look silly flying", until the flying tortoise on boosters was released, and then they just stopped caring. Then in SB when they were considering adding the fenrir bike, which at the time was a mount that truly felt out of the world and very modern like in comparison to everything that we had (Allag was more scify, not modern), and I do remember Yoshida explaining in details that they debated a lot about adding it, and were still considering it because the mount looked silly at base speed mount so they could only add it with 1 star speed at the very least (nice excuse to have a pay to move faster at base speed mount in the store).
Now SHB and EW and DT went by, and they just don't care about it anymore. It's exactly the same story with lvl1 casual glams. They used to be in universe, now they're just regular or fancy clothing you'd find in stores IRL.

Oh Valence, since you are here, what happened to your argument of "experience something to give a valid opinion", given that this thread is full of people who obviously never in their life have ever seen a high-end duty from the inside, but still give their endless takes on job and encounter design? What is that, doesn't matter, you aren't arguing in good faith anyway and are happy to piggyback meaningless statements so long as it fits your agenda? Yeah, thought so.

So let me get this straight, you were absolutely mad when being told that you had no ARR/HW experience and it made your takes on the content back then extremely funny to read to anyone with a even a modicum of playtime during ARR/HW, and now that it seems like you can use this argument in turn, you're eagerly jumping into it? Isn't that quite opportunistic of you.
And if only it would actually work, you know, if it was actually about high end duties, which I surely must have missed the disclaimer/mention in this thread? I don't think talking about job and gameplay engagement is reserved to the exclusive club of high end raiders. Or do you think that only raiders can express their opinion on jobs in casual content?

I know you're only here to stir shit and start flamewars because that's apparently what you delight into, else why would you participate on the very forums and I quote: people who generally like the game stay away from the forums, since this is pretty much a cesspool of negativity and posers. People who have done absolutely nothing in this game, but fill every single thread about every topic with their unfounded "opinions" and "hot takes".
So which is it for you? If you enjoyed the game by your own words you wouldn't be there wouldn't you? Unless you have done absolutely nothing in the game and fill every single thread about every topic with your unfounded opinions and hot takes... But that wouldn't be you, wouldn't it?
So is there a third option hidden somewhere? Like, you're only here because you're a gigantic troll, or perhaps, because you need to spread the word and enlighten all those forum peasants in the errors of their ways?

[Bubblesong]

So let me get this straight, you were absolutely mad when being told that you had no ARR/HW experience and it made your takes on the content back then extremely funny to read to anyone with a even a modicum of playtime during ARR/HW, and now that it seems like you can use this argument in turn, you're eagerly jumping into it? Isn't that quite opportunistic of you.
And if only it would actually work, you know, if it was actually about high end duties, which I surely must have missed the disclaimer/mention in this thread? I don't think talking about job and gameplay engagement is reserved to the exclusive club of high end raiders. Or do you think that only raiders can express their opinion on jobs in casual content?

I think the devs agree with the stance that some people have when it comes to things like some mounts shouldn't be flying, and difficulty in jobs.. I think the real issue isn't the devs I believe it's the damn shareholders that always ruin everything everywhere/ the top heads of Square Enix not the devs wanting to bring in more people even if those people are basically brain-dead to line their pockets more.

That my honest opinion on it, its not the devs doing these horrible choices/ designs within jobs are anything else, the only thing the devs are guilty of is not having a backbone and telling the shareholders and heads off when they know they are wrong.

[Valence]

I wouldn't waste your breath on him, you know he's just going to come back with some "hurr, I got you to make a long response, that means I win" styled-retort.

Personally I blocked him a long time ago, and judging by the times I see what he says when someone else quotes him, I've been living in his head rent-free for over half a year because of a single PVP match, and I reckon it's the same thing with you. (Said one thing that triggered him and now he endlessly follows and shrieks about it.)

Apparently they think I'm Red Thunder somehow.

I genuinely don't understand what people like him are looking for on those forums. I wish I knew. The only thing they seem to be doing either comes into replying to posts they don't like and ad-personam / strawman the poster to death by telling them on a loop that their reading comprehension is shit, or either just making trite and heinous statements about how other players suck ass at the game, can't follow simple guides or press buttons, and feel superior about it. When it's not just about lamenting on the state of the forums and the posters by calling them hateful (the irony) and too busy "doomposting" instead of enjoying the game (hilarious).

You'd actually think they'd have something better to do with their life in the game, since they seem to be, in fact, greatly enjoying it.

[TheInsomniac13]

It IS pretty funny how they seem to have a "if you don't like the game, why are you still posting on the forums so much? HUH HUH!?" attitude and yet they themselves seem to be on the forums quite often with nothing positive to say about anyone or anything.

Maybe they're equally disappointed with the state of things, but realizing their criticisms and complaints have fallen on deaf ears to the developers (as we've all experienced), they've decided to take out their anger on their fellow players because at least they know they're being heard, and a negative response is better to them then no response at all.

Or perhaps they're part of the playerbase who believes it's "everyone else's fault" for the game's condition, and if they can drive out the players they think are to blame for everything, the game will suddenly change for the better. Like, there's people on the forums who legitimately believe that if every casual was driven out, the game would magically stop being "dumbed down" because the developers will panic and "restore" the game to whatever state they believed was Final Fantasy 14's golden age ...not realizing that the game making less money and having less players will only make things worse for them in the long-run

Depends honestly. Activision Blizzard saw WoW for years as there low effort cashcow raking in money while not reinvesting anything. On YouTube there was an interview with designers of WoW talking about how they had to work with a nearly non existing budget. Then the great player Exodus happend and Blizzard suddenly realized wait? You need a budget to make meaning full content?! Wo would have thought!
They then started to reinvest into WoW and see there it recoverd from it´s miserable stat.

I believe FF 14 is in a similar stat forcing a design that is cheap to do and work with. But knowing how Japanese Companies think and work I am not shure if an player Exodus would have the hoped effect. Japanese are not know to question leadership or admitting mistakes.

[Bubblesong]

Eh Honestly I don't know If I care anymore it seems like people Don't want to play a game in a general sense, not talking about difficulty just engagement and some thought process Seems like I'll have to keep having 3 different devices playing the game while listening to lectures/ random thoughtful tv shows Either that or I need to build a device that can detect when my character is hit so it hits me irl lol