Stuff like THIS is the reason Housing is a Joke -- SE please do something about this!

[SophiaDL]

If that is how me saying that I created my FC on 01/01/2016 and I still have yet to get an FC house was taken it's my bad for poor wording I just meant I have had my FC for that long and in that time of building up Gil to get a house at each corner I have been unable to attain a house be it because of how expensive they were and or the unluck with lottery. however on Behemoth which I have resided since 2015 it's rare to see mediums and larges available even when auto demo is enabled.

Fair, I still dont think going to Dynamis is the right choice, you'll end up on a dead/dying DC that people are avoiding like a plague because its just never going to grow to a fully functional DC, most people also wont care enough to come over through DC travel just to visit, decision is up to you really, but I'd advice agaisnt it

[Nana_Bear]

...(especially the lottery, placard was better, even if people hate to admit it)....

Big nope from me: I joined while the placard system was still active, and it was awful. Literally 3-4 people in our FC showing up, clicking like mad, house after house, and never even landing a small for us. Some of us got carpal-tunnel type issues from hours of clicking. When they changed to the lottery, it did take a few times but eventually we landed a small, and were able to use it for multiple things including birthday parties for members.

BUT, I've also been trying for a Med or Large for a personal (I want to make a museum space) for most of that time, and nope. The zone where I have a small rarely even has smalls come open at this point, and with Demo being turned off for so many MONTHS now, nothing really comes available. We very much need more housing on existing worlds where wards are full, but also, again, I think we need a new type of neighborhood in which you buy a large-sized plot (where *all* the plots are large), then can *pick* the size of house you put on it. Them just adding more wards with only 3 larges and 3 mediums means those go quick, and then (like on Dynamis) the smalls stand empty for a long time.

Yes, doing a new neighborhood design IS a lot of work... but IMO the changes would pay off for SE and fix a lot of the problems, and they could limit it to 20 houses per neighborhood to cut back on how much data each one would require, and just do more of them to make up numbers.

Don't get me wrong: I appreciate the Demo-pausing for RL disasters, but SE lets the pause run for way too long---months? But Demo is a small band-aid for a big problem, IMO.

[SophiaDL]

Big nope from me: I joined while the placard system was still active, and it was awful. Literally 3-4 people in our FC showing up, clicking like mad, house after house, and never even landing a small for us. Some of us got carpal-tunnel type issues from hours of clicking. When they changed to the lottery, it did take a few times but eventually we landed a small, and were able to use it for multiple things including birthday parties for members.

BUT, I've also been trying for a Med or Large for a personal (I want to make a museum space) for most of that time, and nope. The zone where I have a small rarely even has smalls come open at this point, and with Demo being turned off for so many MONTHS now, nothing really comes available. We very much need more housing on existing worlds where wards are full, but also, again, I think we need a new type of neighborhood in which you buy a large-sized plot (where *all* the plots are large), then can *pick* the size of house you put on it. Them just adding more wards with only 3 larges and 3 mediums means those go quick, and then (like on Dynamis) the smalls stand empty for a long time.

Yes, doing a new neighborhood design IS a lot of work... but IMO the changes would pay off for SE and fix a lot of the problems, and they could limit it to 20 houses per neighborhood to cut back on how much data each one would require, and just do more of them to make up numbers.

Don't get me wrong: I appreciate the Demo-pausing for RL disasters, but SE lets the pause run for way too long---months? But Demo is a small band-aid for a big problem, IMO.

People were supposed to only be there in "prime time" which was not 24 hrs long (thank god for that) it basically had a timespan of about 2 hours and that time had the biggest chance for the house to become available, the problem was that people camped for 10+ hours straight.

Also yeah I'm sorry, I'd rather be agaisnt like 20 or 30 people at a house instead of 500, but thats just me, some people just like to have absolutely no odds to ever win anything I guess.

[Andanie]

Instanced is a garbage system .it did not look great in eso .it will not look good in wow either . Xiv has one of the best housing system

I swear some of y'all have the literacy skills of an elementary schooler.

LOTRO has neighborhoods. When those neighborhoods fill up a new neighborhood is generated.

WoW will work the same way.

Neither of these games is ESO which is instanced housing where the house instanced and there for the location is shared. That's a different system. Do you understand? Like can you read?

XIV's is objectively one of the worst in terms of accessibility and is already being beaten at it's own game by LOTRO- with WoW directly taking aim at bascially everything that sucks at FFXIV's housing. Now, WoW's isn't out yet- so we'll see what monkey paw curl blizzard manages but their current planned housing is much better already.

[CCheshire]

People were supposed to only be there in "prime time" which was not 24 hrs long (thank god for that) it basically had a timespan of about 2 hours and that time had the biggest chance for the house to become available, the problem was that people camped for 10+ hours straight.

Also yeah I'm sorry, I'd rather be agaisnt like 20 or 30 people at a house instead of 500, but thats just me, some people just like to have absolutely no odds to ever win anything I guess.

IIRC it's not people, it's auto-clickers for the old method, so that's closer to 0% compared to now, it'd be more fair since everyone has 1 chance unless you've pooled FC gil together for more members to bid.

[SophiaDL]

IIRC it's not people, it's auto-clickers for the old method, so that's closer to 0% compared to now, it'd be more fair since everyone has 1 chance unless you've pooled FC gil together for more members to bid.

Still had more chances with a few auto clickers than 500 "real" people, but okay lol

[Rinoa_353]

Still had more chances with a few auto clickers than 500 "real" people, but okay lol

I always lost those click battles so while the lotto system isn't perfect, it has done away with having to camp at a plot hoping you beat the auto clickers and bots. I won my P28 mansion in LB like two weeks before DT came out, so many people and FC's were bidding on my plot after they showed off the Country walls and there were over 250 bids too, so it's possible to win.