Stuff like THIS is the reason Housing is a Joke -- SE please do something about this!

[Nana_Bear]

This exactly this, I have been playing since 2015 I created my FC on 01/01/2016 and still have not gotten an FC house. I am basically packing up to move to dynamis knowing I am losing a 9 year old FC and over 200 friends some who I have been friends with for over 2500+ 3000+ days because as you know majority of them will just stay on their home server and not bother DC hoping just to say hi and hang out.

My sympathies! Yeah, it's like telling the WoL, "Hey---you can move to this new planet out there and build your dream home... but forget about your Scion friends, because they have things they're doing back on the home world, and won't be visiting you much. If at all."

I mean... a central core of the story is the FRIENDSHIPS, right? It's kind of like asking the WoL to give up their besties, in order to have their own home. When said Scion besties, visiting YOU, can't access a lot of stuff from their home-world... like mail, retainers (and gil stored on them), etc. Sigh.

[VeyaAkemi]

an Instance is an Instance

You are focusing too much on the exact terminology people are using. They are wrong about the exact mechanisms behind the housing process, but this is because they aren't programmers, the point they are trying to get across is that they think the way things work currently with housing wards with neighborhoods, is a terrible way to handle things, and they'd prefer houses that exist in a vacuum without anyone around them, but are still fully functional compared to current housing, and are in turn available to all.

Literally everything is an instance in this game, Limsa Lominsa Lower Decks, literally the most populated map in the game at any given time, is an instance, to laser focus on the the one detail in their argument that sounds off is dishonest, people are merely unaware of the exact mechanisms behind the game, but that doesn't make their feelings and opinions on the state of things invalid.

[Rinoa_353]

This exactly this, I have been playing since 2015 I created my FC on 01/01/2016 and still have not gotten an FC house. I am basically packing up to move to dynamis knowing I am losing a 9 year old FC and over 200 friends some who I have been friends with for over 2500+ 3000+ days because as you know majority of them will just stay on their home server and not bother DC hoping just to say hi and hang out.

Before you move, have you tried creating or moving an alt to Dynamis? I would suggest you do that first, I sent my main alt to Seraph when it went live and I was able to get an S tier (P60) mansion plot in Shiro. I was able to enjoy housing for over a year and a half until my OG main won her personal large in Exodus after trying for over 7 years when I won it last early June. Having my home in Dynamis to tinker around with and decorate made the wait much more bearable until my OG main won her plot.



If you do decide to move your main to Dynamis, choose one of the new worlds like Cuchulainn, Golem or Rafflessia since those have tons of mediums and even a few mansion plots up for grabs. Kraken and Seraph don't have the Road to 90 buff too if you care about that and they will also cost you money to move there while the rest of the Dynamis worlds would be free. Seraph will be nearly as bad as Behe if you intend to get a FC plot larger than a small and it's worse for trying to get any plot for a personal plot.

[SophiaDL]

an Instance is an Instance, the only thing that would be loss is their ability to live track gardens and orchestrations, but in reality those can be stored as a SQL entry and next time the instance is loaded it just does a check on how long as passed since the last time the instance was loaded vs how long x garden should take to grow.



This exactly this, I have been playing since 2015 I created my FC on 01/01/2016 and still have not gotten an FC house. I am basically packing up to move to dynamis knowing I am losing a 9 year old FC and over 200 friends some who I have been friends with for over 2500+ 3000+ days because as you know majority of them will just stay on their home server and not bother DC hoping just to say hi and hang out.

No offense but considering the population of Behemoth, if you havent gotten a house neither under the placard system or the lottery system, you are doing something very wrong, even people on Balmung have gotten larges and mediums and it has a gigantic amount of bids, far more than any of Behemoth's plots, so you are either lying or making it far worse than it is.

9 years without a single medium or large win is quite literally impossible.

[s32ialx]

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I guess I could have used more words but I am trying to get across the point that what they are asking for is not instances but segregation/privacy. They ask for instances but they are already instanced and an instance is an instance no matter how you look at it.

No offense but considering the population of Behemoth, if you havent gotten a house neither under the placard system or the lottery system, you are doing something very wrong, even people on Balmung have gotten larges and mediums and it has a gigantic amount of bids, far more than any of Behemoth's plots, so you are either lying or making it far worse than it is.

9 years without a single medium or large win is quite literally impossible.

Oh yes when there has been no housing available for over a year and auto demo keep getting turned off for months and months and months at a time with no end in sight.

Not like I can't afford it,


When a medium shows up if its unrestricted 80+ bids if it's FC only MINIMUM 45+ bids

[s32ialx]

Before you move, have you tried creating or moving an alt to Dynamis? I would suggest you do that first, I sent my main alt to Seraph when it went live and I was able to get an S tier (P60) mansion plot in Shiro. I was able to enjoy housing for over a year and a half until my OG main won her personal large in Exodus after trying for over 7 years when I won it last early June. Having my home in Dynamis to tinker around with and decorate made the wait much more bearable until my OG main won her plot.



If you do decide to move your main to Dynamis, choose one of the new worlds like Cuchulainn, Golem or Rafflessia since those have tons of mediums and even a few mansion plots up for grabs. Kraken and Seraph don't have the Road to 90 buff too if you care about that and they will also cost you money to move there while the rest of the Dynamis worlds would be free. Seraph will be nearly as bad as Behe if you intend to get a FC plot larger than a small and it's worse for trying to get any plot for a personal plot.

I had an alt for a long time on Maduin who had a medium but I did not use it often enough to justify stealing a medium from someone else who would hopefully get more use from it instead of logging in once a week to do enclave hand-ins and walk in the house and leave (it was even fully furnished cause I stopped playing my main for a few months) but I went back to my main and I really don't play alts when there's already so much to do on the main and all my friends on my main and I am not looking to juggle two friend groups.

[SophiaDL]

I guess I could have used more words but I am trying to get across the point that what they are asking for is not instances but segregation/privacy. They ask for instances but they are already instanced and an instance is an instance no matter how you look at it.



Oh yes when there has been no housing available for over a year and auto demo keep getting turned off for months and months and months at a time with no end in sight.

Not like I can't afford it,


When a medium shows up if its unrestricted 80+ bids if it's FC only MINIMUM 45+ bids

Before SE put auto demo constantly on pause, there was ~~7 year and half to 8 years, even if there's 100 bids, there is no way you lost under both placard and under lottery both, I'm sorry.

[s32ialx]

Before SE put auto demo constantly on pause, there was ~~7 year and half to 8 years, even if there's 100 bids, there is no way you lost under both placard and under lottery both, I'm sorry.

uhm I had a personal house back in HW but I did not have an FC house if I made it sound like I could afford a housing during that period I am sorry I was merely meaning I have been around that long. I still have a small personal. However I was not able to afford until after the housing changed to lottery and I do no appreciate you saying "there is no way you lost under lottery" because that is literally a gamble and there is and never will be a guarantee that you win ever especially when 80+ people are bidding at the same time as you for the plot you want, not to mention you can't bid on multiple plots just one a week.

I'm not going around on alt's with billions of gil buying up FC's and owning wards, like some disgusting players do.

[SophiaDL]

uhm I had a personal house back in HW but I did not have an FC house if I made it sound like I could afford a housing during that period I am sorry I was merely meaning I have been around that long. I still have a small personal. However I was not able to afford until after the housing changed to lottery and I do no appreciate you saying "there is no way you lost under lottery" because that is literally a gamble and there is and never will be a guarantee that you win ever especially when 80+ people are bidding at the same time as you for the plot you want, not to mention you can't bid on multiple plots just one a week.

I'm not going around on alt's with billions of gil buying up FC's and owning wards, like some disgusting players do.

if I made it sound like I could afford a housing during that period I am sorry I was merely meaning I have been around that long

That's a big difference though, your original post sounded like you had entered housing for that long be it for FC or personal and through lottery or placard, I am not defending the terrible housing system (especially the lottery, placard was better, even if people hate to admit it) but you havent been trying for housing for that long which imo needed clarification.

[s32ialx]

That's a big difference though, your original post sounded like you had entered housing for that long be it for FC or personal and through lottery or placard, I am not defending the terrible housing system (especially the lottery, placard was better, even if people hate to admit it) but you havent been trying for housing for that long which imo needed clarification.

If that is how me saying that I created my FC on 01/01/2016 and I still have yet to get an FC house was taken it's my bad for poor wording I just meant I have had my FC for that long and in that time of building up Gil to get a house at each corner I have been unable to attain a house be it because of how expensive they were and or the unluck with lottery. however on Behemoth which I have resided since 2015 it's rare to see mediums and larges available even when auto demo is enabled.