SE: Please tone it down a hair

[ejiboo]

Hello,

If you are referring to the choice of words used and the way sentences are made, I can understand your difficulty. It is by no means the modern vernacular, choosing rather to rely on words that are less common but more prominent in slightly archaic literature.

I think it is healthy and to be admired that they choose to keep it more sophisticated. Also gives it that sense that it's 'English' but not quite 'English'. Almost if you are reading Olde English of Yore ^.^;

i think you said this very well! people in opposition can learn a thing or two from this game, but, 1st, my, frandz, u, must... (actl)y reed it!!!11!!1!1one

[Skies]

My dear Ryuko, this game REALLY outdos itself with the fanservice every second I spend in it. Some things are downright absurd, and I swear, the Miner's Guild aint the worst offender.

Although the Miqo'te path companion is actually vastly hilarious in her use of language (at least to a non-native)

[Nabiri]

I haven't had many issues with this in-game except a little in Limsa because of the accents. Where I do find some trouble is the lore/stories posted on the Lodestone. The word play can make me go cross-eyed at times. D: That, I feel, could be toned down a notch.

[Rydin]

I haven't had many issues with this in-game except a little in Limsa because of the accents. Where I do find some trouble is the lore/stories posted on the Lodestone. The word play can make me go cross-eyed at times. D: That, I feel, could be toned down a notch.

Too much alliteration for you?

[Asiaine]

Have you ever read Shakespeare?

There are reasons Shakespeare remains one of the most popular and enjoyed play-writes in history. Oh yeah, and there's pages upon pages of the same difficult English. But yet, people continue to enjoy it. A surprise! Those people must enjoy reading and/or stories and/or dramatic performances. Much like what the dialogue is aimed at in this game. People who enjoy reading and/or stories and/or dramatic performances. If you as a player do not fit into having the amount of patience required to read, then you may simply skip the stories and do well not to complain.

The worrying thing is... Shakespeare was not writing for the educated and upper classes... quite the contrary. To suggest his writings and concepts were difficult and advanced reveals the truth about our lack of comprehension and limited literary competence.

Sad are we, for living in a world of 'tl;dr -> LOL big words r l@m3. Gimme stuff!'

[Kiroh]

As someone who read Great Expectations in fifth grade, even I agree with the OPs sentiment. The conversations in this game can make it very difficult to follow for someone without a college degree in English literature, or an unabridged copy of the Oxford English dictionary lying around.

(Also, I know it might be a lot to ask, but can there please be SOME Miqo'te NPCs that don't talk like streetwalking prostitutes?)

[Asiaine]

As someone who read Great Expectations in fifth grade, even I agree with the OPs sentiment. The conversations in this game can make it very difficult to follow for someone without a college degree in English literature, or an unabridged copy of the Oxford English dictionary lying around.

Is that all they had you read in school? o.o! Not picking, just it is interesting to note all our experiences and admirations here will differ greatly based on our backgrounds and personal interests.

Whereas I, who read vast vast quantities of literature (many of the 'modern' poets, historic poets, plays, English/French/Russian, and even operas (standard school education ^.^;; )) will obviously have a different perspective then some who are giving a very strict set of literature to read (3-5 american novels, for example).

So it is not suprising we all have different views on what is good, and what is not. What is tolerable, and what is not. What is enjoyable, and what is not.

Sadly, there is no single solution to make all happy. Fortunately, there are many solutions available such that everyone will find one they like.

While I will say here, the syntax, vocabulary and even storylines can be on the more 'challenging' side of literature it is by no means so difficult that it would need to be 'toned down'. That being said, there is room for improvement in the actual telling of the story.

But some of this, sadly, is due to the fact that we get it piece-by-piece that by the time we get to the next 'chapter' we forgot the previous one ^.^;; If each 'chapter' was made more prominent, more complete, more detailed and fullfilling, then this would lead to a more enriched process.

Some ways that I think this can be 'remedied' is if we could replay ALL the quests/side-quests from our Inns, and see them in the correct order. It can also be 'enhanced' (after the fact) so that it can be made more complete (perhaps more dialogue, more scenes, etc.)

[Cendres]

Different characters, different story. (>.> ) Different motivations, different personalities.

If you don't like the story, that's fine. But damn, just say so and be done with it.

Again it has nothing to do with the story or not wanting to read, I love how people have time to post but not time to read what has previously been said just in case what they say has already been touched on. lol. These forums I tell you.

edit: While I quoted one person in particular it's a general observation of this thread and others..

[Nabiri]

Too much alliteration for you?

Just a bit more than I like. Haha.

[Kiroh]

Is that all they had you read in school? o.o! Not picking, just it is interesting to note all our experiences and admirations here will differ greatly based on our backgrounds and personal interests.

They actually didn't have me read it, I read it in my spare time at home. It's not considered particularly normal literary fare for a 10 year old where I grew up.

Still, I was always under the impression that the point of telling a story was reaching the widest audience possible to convey your message to, which was why Shakespeare used the language he did in his works, and why they have stood the test of time.