Stuff like THIS is the reason Housing is a Joke -- SE please do something about this!

[Mimilu]

Y'know they had a really good chance to move to instanced housing with island sanctuary it's kinda funny they didn't.

Sadly, houses and demolition timers are part of how the devs keep people subscribed, the more time, effort, and coin (real or fake) you put into the game, the harder it can be to leave for some people. (◍´͈ꈊ`͈◍)

[Sarevok_Thordin]

Who necroed this thread.

[s32ialx]

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If they found a way to get everyone a house this would be a feature not an issue

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Please take a gander over at my suggestion and updoot if you are in agreeance.

• Potential Housing Crisis Fix (Includes ability for permanent Housing (Sm, Med, Lrg)

[Merrigan]

lol.. its not about me wanting a house or me being envious. i actually had a house but i gave it up. because i dont need it. i could have gotten a new one a long time ago

thats the point though not everyone needs a house. so many people want a house just to have it.

why does someone who plays once a week needs a house? an appartement would be enough in those cases. you can decorate it, but there is no point in being a member in a neighbourhood if you arent around anyway.

Neighbourhoods are completely dead, the argument is fallacious. Which brings me to my second point: neighbourliness isn't what makes most people want a house. Many seem to want it for the sheer pleasure of knowing that their character has a pied-à-terre in Eorzea, and... And that's about it. The legitimacy of a request is never based on its usefulness in a game. Or else, forget all the demands for more glamours; forget, I'd like to say, all the demands because you don't ‘need’ to play FF.

There are two possibilities here: either SE reinvests this idea of ‘neighbourhood’ and does something with it (event, benefits, etc) and in that case maintaining the current system is valid. Or we can forget all this fuss about a feature that, today, is deeply outdated and generates nothing but frustration.

[SophiaDL]

Neighbourhoods are completely dead, the argument is fallacious. Which brings me to my second point: neighbourliness isn't what makes most people want a house. Many seem to want it for the sheer pleasure of knowing that their character has a pied-à-terre in Eorzea, and... And that's about it. The legitimacy of a request is never based on its usefulness in a game. Or else, forget all the demands for more glamours; forget, I'd like to say, all the demands because you don't ‘need’ to play FF.

There are two possibilities here: either SE reinvests this idea of ‘neighbourhood’ and does something with it (event, benefits, etc) and in that case maintaining the current system is valid. Or we can forget all this fuss about a feature that, today, is deeply outdated and generates nothing but frustration.

Or we could not change the very base of FFXIV housing and what makes it unique, and instead implement something such as dynamic wards for heavily overpopulated servers such as Balmung so that anyone can at the very least get a small, create new wards based on demand, and remove them where it isnt needed (Hi the 4 new dynamis worlds and Materia), instanced is lazy and boring, and is already in every other game, we dont need that in FFXIV.

[Merrigan]

Or we could not change the very base of FFXIV housing and what makes it unique, and instead implement something such as dynamic wards for heavily overpopulated servers such as Balmung so that anyone can at the very least get a small, create new wards based on demand, and remove them where it isnt needed (Hi the 4 new dynamis worlds and Materia), instanced is lazy and boring, and is already in every other game, we dont need that in FFXIV.

The best would be a hybrid system, I'm convinced: keep the neighborhood, which, even if it's dead and buried, comes from a good intention; and set up the equivalent of apartments but with houses via another location. Creating new locations on a regular basis seems a bit greedy though, it must require quite a bit of work.


On the other hand, I'm not so sure about the need to preserve the system's originality at all costs. If the system is bad, who cares if it's original? It's bad, period, and you've got to get rid of it.

[IndraSyngiwyb]

Unfortunately, keeping housing both scarce and tying your house to your log-in time is far too lucrative of a thing for Square. It effectively tells you, "You have to keep paying your sub because if you don't, you can't log in and you will lose your house. Oh, and good luck getting another one if that happens, pleb."

It's a way to keep players paying, so the head honchos at Square are probably NEVER gonna fix it.

[Underscore]

Why hide their name? This person knows they're doing something bad, they should be shamed for it.

We have instanced housing. All interiors are instanced whether house, apartment or FC chambers.

It's the exteriors that aren't instanced and that is causing the problem. SE just needs to extend the instancing to include the exteriors, using the placard as the portal to multiple player plots at that location just as the apartment building door is the portal to multiple apartments.

No, just add more wards. The number of wards should simply increase as they fill up, like with WoW's announced housing system. We don't need instanced ghost house nonsense.

[s32ialx]

Or we could not change the very base of FFXIV housing and what makes it unique, and instead implement something such as dynamic wards for heavily overpopulated servers such as Balmung so that anyone can at the very least get a small, create new wards based on demand, and remove them where it isnt needed (Hi the 4 new dynamis worlds and Materia), instanced is lazy and boring, and is already in every other game, we dont need that in FFXIV.

Why hide their name? This person knows they're doing something bad, they should be shamed for it.

No, just add more wards. The number of wards should simply increase as they fill up, like with WoW's announced housing system. We don't need instanced ghost house nonsense.

They are already instanced. Wards are already instances.

[SophiaDL]

Why hide their name? This person knows they're doing something bad, they should be shamed for it.




No, just add more wards. The number of wards should simply increase as they fill up, like with WoW's announced housing system. We don't need instanced ghost house nonsense.

I fully agree with you, I'm glad to finally have someone agree with me, we really seem to be a minority at this point lol, instanced is such a boring concept and is already in every other MMO, and guess what, it's super boring and soulless, FFXIV just needs more wards, that's literally it, we dont need instanced housing to "fix" housing, it'd just kill housing.

They are already instanced. Wards are already instances.

Fair, it can be seen that way yeah and I agree.

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