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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoePet View Post
    That's how it works right now with blocking characters as well. If you block somebody they disappear in your client only. The server is still sending all their data, chats etc. to your client. Your client is only blocking it by account id which is the whole reason for the privacy scandal.

    If SE add this, they will do it the exact same way as they did it before. Meaning: All blocked clients will receive a message: Hey client, this user blocked you so dont show it to the person in front of the screen. Rendering it absolutely useless and easly bypassable.



    This also goes for you. SE has proven that they will implement a feature like this exactly like I have it outlined and the reasons for that are to be found in their server-side backend code. You are lecturing a programmer with 20 years of experience here. They simply don't have the ability to filter traffic going out to clients as they are using a cell based synchronization in a pubsub way. That's exactly why they broadcast the account ids now to make the "block one character and block all alts at the same time" function work.

    Changing this would A) take the will to refactor their core synchronization code and B) cost more in upkeep due to increased resource requirements and they have proven that they are not willing to do so.

    And this idea in itself is flawed and destined to fail as long as there are plugins.

    Even IF the server stops sending the data to the client a simple check with another client whose account isn't blocked via a third party tool will reveal the fact that they are blocked. Same goes the other way around.

    So the whole concept is insecure and privacy invading and the way SE implemented it is the worst way possible.

    EDIT: I do recommend taking a look into this thread https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...n-circumvented
    This thread isn't about the plugin at all, it's about the base functionality of the in-game blocklist. If you want to discuss the stalker plugin, go to the thread you linked to do so. This thread is about the functionality of the vanilla client.
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    Send 'em to the Slab!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veladrys View Post
    This thread isn't about the plugin at all, it's about the base functionality of the in-game blocklist. If you want to discuss the stalker plugin, go to the thread you linked to do so. This thread is about the functionality of the vanilla client.
    The problem is you don’t have to consent to the plugin to have it be used on you and it’s specifically because the vanilla blacklist was changed to move data to the client in an incredibly unsafe way that is already used for the stalking plugin but can be used for a host of other things

    The blacklist needs to be reverted in the short term, whether it’s intended functionally is better or worse than the old blacklist when it creates this many problems is basically arguing about the paint colour while the house is burning down
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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