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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekymus View Post
    Are you on dr*gs? I AM a casual player and I can NOT engage with Cosmic Exploration in its current state. It SUCKS because I can't use it to effectively level the one gatherer I actually like playing.

    It shouldn't take my 2 days to get a level and a half in fisher because I fail at almost every mission repeatedly because they're only meant for omni-crafter/gatherers to actually do. That's not f*cking "casual", that's a hardcore Savage tier grind, and it sucks.
    Serious question: If Fisher is the one (gatherer) class you actually like playing, why did it take you almost 10 months to level it from 90 to 96?

    Besides that I have to admit that Fisher is the worst to do the missions with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    Serious question: If Fisher is the one (gatherer) class you actually like playing, why did it take you almost 10 months to level it from 90 to 96?

    Besides that I have to admit that Fisher is the worst to do the missions with.
    Because real life happens. Whether it took me 10 months or 10 years what's it matter? I fully admit I'm a casual player. Cosmic Exploration was supposed to be for casual players to level crafters and gatherers. It's not. It's a really bad experience and some of the worst content in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekymus View Post
    Because real life happens. Whether it took me 10 months or 10 years what's it matter? I fully admit I'm a casual player. Cosmic Exploration was supposed to be for casual players to level crafters and gatherers. It's not. It's a really bad experience and some of the worst content in the game.
    Cosmic is for everything. It’s one way to level the gatherers, if you don’t like it you can also do collectibles or custom deliveries or anything else. It is also high level challenge content and mid tier farming content
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Cosmic is for everything. It’s one way to level the gatherers, if you don’t like it you can also do collectibles or custom deliveries or anything else. It is also high level challenge content and mid tier farming content
    You are wrong. Cosmic Exploration is bad content for gatherers. If you don't think so, that's on you for not understanding how bad it is. But you need to stop gaslighting and pretending like this is the best content ever created.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekymus View Post
    You are wrong. Cosmic Exploration is bad content for gatherers. If you don't think so, that's on you for not understanding how bad it is. But you need to stop gaslighting and pretending like this is the best content ever created.
    Would it be considered RMT to say I will pay you to understand that just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it bad content

    Nor am I liable to give your opinion much weight on the subject considering you are struggling with such low level missions with no gear justification that at this point it’s not the content’s fault. We are at the point of a cure 1 spammer and a no mitigation/healing tank blaming the content for wiping in a dungeon

    Quote Originally Posted by Ekymus View Post
    Perhaps you need to learn to read and comprehend better.

    The point is, gathering sucks to do in Cosmic Exploration, fishing is particularly bad, miner and botanist are also unpleasant and not any fun to play in that content.
    That had nothing to do with the point that person was making, they were acting like you could extrapolate your experiences in BTN to FSH
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 04-30-2025 at 09:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Would it be considered RMT to say I will pay you to understand that just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it bad content

    Nor am I liable to give your opinion much weight on the subject considering you are struggling with such low level missions with no gear justification that at this point it’s not the content’s fault. We are at the point of a cure 1 spammer and a no mitigation/healing tank blaming the content for wiping in a dungeon



    That had nothing to do with the point that person was making, they were acting like you could extrapolate your experiences in BTN to FSH
    You need to pull your head out of the sand kiddo.

    There are people on these forums besides me complaining about the gathering side of Cosmic Explorations. There are streamers complaining about it. There are Reddit posts complaining about it.And they're almost all saying the same thing, Cosmic Exploration is messed up for gatherers.

    I get it, you have no personality other than white knighting for a game you play, but Cosmic Exploration is BAD content for gatherers. And I've heard and seen more than a few botanists complaining about the content as well.

    It's you and like 4 other people who are defending the dumpster fire that is gathering in Cosmic Explorations. You are in the minority and you are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekymus View Post
    You need to pull your head out of the sand kiddo.

    There are people on these forums besides me complaining about the gathering side of Cosmic Explorations. There are streamers complaining about it. There are Reddit posts complaining about it.And they're almost all saying the same thing, Cosmic Exploration is messed up for gatherers.

    I get it, you have no personality other than white knighting for a game you play, but Cosmic Exploration is BAD content for gatherers. And I've heard and seen more than a few botanists complaining about the content as well.

    It's you and like 4 other people who are defending the dumpster fire that is gathering in Cosmic Explorations. You are in the minority and you are wrong.
    I need to take a screenshot of this, me being called a white knight. This is just next level

    And if you actually read you’d understand that few people actually disagree with proper actionable criticism on the front of gatherers. Things such as GP not restoring, or cordials being too weak with too long CD’s, same as criticism around the problem that aetherial reduction takes time in a limited time spam. It’s just that gets mixed up with people making criticisms that amount to “I don’t understand the content” or “my gear is too weak” and they think that since other people are making valid criticisms then theirs are as well. 99% of complaints that aren’t “GP doesn’t restore” amount to “I can’t read” like people who wonder why they aren’t getting any points on a mission that gives points for triggering gatherers boon or weak gear; like people who constantly complain that they can’t gold rank A3 experts with orange scrip gear macros

    Your complaints basically centre on you being unable to do absolutely basic missions for reasons you will not explain to us despite other people doing harder missions with weaker gear than you and then going “see since x person made y (valid complaint) my complaint that makes zero sense and you won’t substantiate is also totally valid” and then go “see so everyone has to hate the content”

    Like you just called me a white knight, the forums number 1 hater of modern job design just because I’m telling you that “I don’t understand the content” isn’t a valid criticism unless your complaint is that the content is opaque in explaining crafting and gathering breakpoints which IS a valid criticism
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 05-01-2025 at 04:56 PM.