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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    That's doing it the slowest way possible. The quick way would be to do a few hours gathering for essentially anything worth more than 700 gil a piece (should be able to get 1,400 of them casually within an hour), and voila after 2 hours you have all the gil you need to get every reward. No need for RNG. You could have gotten that in the time we've been spending chatting on the forums here and you've saved yourself ~6 hours of grinding out a relic and countless more of grinding currency.

    The problem here is that rather than asking if there's a better way, for some reason you're dead set on saying it's an impossible expectation. Yet you think it's more reasonable that a person would spend hours grinding out a relic tool for the +35% gacha currency rather than just getting the gil. Ludicrous.
    What you're telling me to do is don't help the progression of the CE and instead just go grind for gil because a casuals grind is pointless and all they should do is farm mats for others to make gil and just buy the rewards instead of trying to enjoy the new content themselves. GOT IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s32ialx View Post
    What you're telling me to do is don't help the progression of the CE and instead just go grind for gil because a casuals grind is pointless and all they should do is farm mats for others to make gil and just buy the rewards instead of trying to enjoy the new content themselves. GOT IT.
    You were the one who told me that the reason someone wants a relic tool is for the +35% points for the gacha system and I informed you there's a much better way to acquire all the rewards, so that reason to want a relic tool is a bad one. If you want to help with the progression of CE then that's not based on the gacha grind. You can casually grind as much as you want and the contribution points will remain the same whether you have the relic equipped or not.

    However basing the completion of the progression fates on number of participants without considering server pop is pretty bad and they should try and change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I used mounts as an example of your wider point as you provided it as an example initially

    Housing is a fair criticism of the busier servers but the rest of the idea that you get FOMO from seeing something someone else owns that you want seems like a personal concern. I see people on aether all the time with things I’d like to have but I don’t flee to dynamis to avoid it. I go “good for them I wonder if it’s viable for me to get that”
    when did I say FLEEING to dynamis, and sure it's a personal concern ALL OF FOMO is a personal concern. The point is that on a more casual server you have to not feel so inadequate because you're not going to be seen a bunch of tryhards flaunting that they sweated and spent millions on millions on millions of gil just so they can skip the content that you can't skip cause you're not as lucky as them or don't have the time invest me that they can put in.

    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    You were the one who told me that the reason someone wants a relic tool is for the +35% points for the gacha system and I informed you there's a much better way to acquire all the rewards, so that reason to want a relic tool is a bad one. If you want to help with the progression of CE then that's not based on the gacha grind. You can casually grind as much as you want and the contribution points will remain the same whether you have the relic equipped or not.

    However basing the completion of the progression fates on number of participants without considering server pop is pretty bad and they should try and change that.
    Why would you tell a casual player to not get the relic and that if they are there just for helping with progression they do not deserve the bonus lunar credits the relic would give, and should just farm over-world mats and buy them that's so uncool and kinda toxic to expect them to just grind to help progression but not get the bonus lunar credits.
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    Last edited by s32ialx; 04-29-2025 at 11:48 AM. Reason: forgot to reply to the second quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s32ialx View Post
    when did I say FLEEING to dynamis, and sure it's a personal concern ALL OF FOMO is a personal concern. The point is that on a more casual server you have to not feel so inadequate because you're not going to be seen a bunch of tryhards flaunting that they sweated and spent millions on millions on millions of gil just so they can skip the content that you can't skip cause you're not as lucky as them or don't have the time invest me that they can put in.
    I don’t know how to tell you that moving servers because you don’t like seeing what other people earned in an MMO is such a non issue that you are quite possibly the only person to ever feel like it

    It’s not toxic advice to say “if seeing what other people earn in an MMO makes you so annoyed you’d rather be on a quiet server where nobody has anything then MMO’s will be spot aren’t the genres for you”. This isn’t something unique to way 14 bends MMO rules, like this is EverQuest 101 rules
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 04-29-2025 at 11:55 AM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I don’t know how to tell you that moving servers because you don’t like seeing what other people earned in an MMO is such a non issue that you are quite possibly the only person to ever feel like it

    It’s not toxic advice to say “if seeing what other people earn in an MMO makes you so annoyed you’d rather be on a quiet server where nobody has anything then MMO’s will be spot aren’t the genres for you”. This isn’t something unique to way 14 bends MMO rules, like this is EverQuest 101 rules
    you my friend are in your own reality with what I said so I'm done conversing with you lol.
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