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    Exploring the cosmos is cool and all, can I explore DCs of other regions now?

    Please press the button that says "enable full cross-region DC travel" on your desk YoshiP

    The technology is clearly already there, considering OCE is open to one and all. Please expand this functionality to at least include more regions. We'd love to have it. https://x.com/MysteriousRyan/status/1827803223970746441 - We are greenlighting it right NOW

    There are plenty of players out there who'd love to be able to do this. Either to be able to play with friends, to be able to play on a DC with better ping, or even just for the fun of it.
    Let me take the rest of this post to pre-emptively address multiple points I see brought against allowing it.

    Culture Clash
    Considering how the amount of people that would somewhat consistently cross-region travel would likely not be very high in the first place, I doubt this would really form a problem? Especially between regions like NA and EU, where the average player has a hard time reading PF descriptions in the first place, I don't think there would be any noticable difference.

    Regional PF/DF first!
    Entirely seperate problem that has nothing to do with enabling cross-region dc travel.
    Regular DC travel caused people to all congest in the big raid dc within their region, true. Enabling cross-region DC travel wouldn't really affect this much at all, however. Aside from the fact that the amount of Voyagers would be significantly lower than the amount of Travellers, an even smaller portion of those are specifically aiming to raid on another regions raid DC. Keeping in mind that a portion of these players are likely coming from their own regions raid DC and thus dont affect the total amount of players across raid DCs as a whole and...

    Rambling aside, the point I'm making here is that the impact of enabling cross-region dc travel would be a drop in the bucket compared to what adding dc travel itself did for this. Cross-region DC travel and Regional PF/DF are solutions to two different problems, and don't affect each other's problems.

    But the economy...
    This does not meaningfully affect you unless you are a gazillionaire in a niche market. Vast majority of you are not.

    Just make a character on the other region
    I don't think many people are very receptive to the idea of grinding an entirely new character and their jobs just to play on a different region. Even assuming you buy every skip, it is still a very significant amount of time to unlock all the content you had before. Let alone the fact you won't have your gil or registrables either.

    shaow horghog??
    Yea

    If I can think of more random strawmen to burn down I'll add them later Im just desperate man I want to go to Europe man I want sweet 20 ms ping instead of 160+ ms in NA please think of my connection wont anyone think of my connection
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    Culture clash is a silly concern on the basis that we've already clashed: during the cloud DC test, when hunting on Materia (JP/NA/EU all were fighting S ranks together literally), OCE have played on JP for years, and people make alts in eachother's regions (English players in JP, JP players on NA, and EU<>NA has always been a common crossover).

    As you said, it'd be rare to do it anyway due to ping, unless crossing over was of benefit to ping or meeting a friend anyway.

    SE responds better to a giant post with lots of pages, so the one we've been adding our voices to is: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-and-EU-Travel
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    Literally no one is agaisnt this except a minuscule minority of people, they just said "if people show support for the idea we'll do it" as a way to put it on the playerbase yet again, they know very well a majority wants cross region travel, but they said that and will keep saying it and use it as an excuse to say "see ! you guys just dont want it badly enough !"
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    OCE desperately needs it at this point.

    uhh not sure what more i can add this this that hasn't already been said lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlCarl View Post
    Please press the button that says "enable full cross-region DC travel" on your desk YoshiP


    Let me take the rest of this post to pre-emptively address multiple points I see brought against allowing it.

    Culture Clash
    ...

    shaow horghog??
    Yea

    If I can think of more random strawmen to burn down I'll add them later Im just desperate man I want to go to Europe man I want sweet 20 ms ping instead of 160+ ms in NA please think of my connection wont anyone think of my connection
    Nope.

    Because JP region are the only culture that knows how to play nicely and cohesively and sociably with each other. See the stark success of Chaotic there only.
    (Honestly, when Yoshi said chaotic was an unexpectedly successfull, maybe he routinely just ignores EU/NA/OCEANIA)
    The western regions response. 'Join discords and gate keep it even more' "socialise - juuuust a little..." (you mean "anti-sociaklise more, sociopath-ise more". I had social, Chaotic finally fkd them all off. ). Premades++ .
    If you opened region travel that culture would be just drowned like a sack of defenceless kittens. (Sorry for gruesome analogy)
    They would have to exclude JP, and my god that would look bad.
    If they did though it might be good. It might force them to use the game to incentivise social play.
    Punish premades from rewards 'hard'.
    Premades should be for prog only. They should be disqualified from rewards totally. And reward drops should be way way way higher to compensate.
    Now everyone else starts to play like JP.
    Now you can turn travel on.
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 04-28-2025 at 03:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    Nope.

    Because JP region are the only culture that knows how to play nicely and cohesively and sociably with each other[…]
    Never heard of ‘public blacklist’?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Never heard of ‘public blacklist’?
    No I dint think so. Not as far as I know.
    Do you mean the game's blacklist feature?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
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    How in the world does any of this even make any sense to you ? The only region that should be barred off from region travel is JP because they want to stay on their own servers only and not have foreigners and that's a massive majority point of view in their community

    The game being "toxic" is just a trait of FFXIV and many other MMORPG's, if you have to not let people travel because of toxicity, then we might as well not be able to move server at all, hell maybe even be stuck in housing areas with no access to Limsa or any other capital city, because imagine the toxicity !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    Nope.

    Because JP region are the only culture that knows how to play nicely and cohesively and sociably with each other. See the stark success of Chaotic there only.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    If you opened region travel that culture would be just drowned like a sack of defenceless kittens. (Sorry for gruesome analogy)
    They would have to exclude JP, and my god that would look bad.
    I think you are grossly overestimating both the difference in culture, and the impact that Voyagers would have on that. Once again, consider that there will really not be that many Voyagers in the first place.
    Chaotic's greater success (read: clear rate) in JP isn't surprising either, and is consistent with their significantly higher savage clear rates as well. I don't think this is because of a difference in how they approach raiding (culture), but simply because a larger portion of their playerbase engages with high-end content in the first place.
    More of an assumption I cannot make though, as clear rates alone do not give you enough information to make a real claim regarding this matter.
    I think Jeeqbit also already addressed this idea regarding a potential culture clash quite well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Culture clash is a silly concern on the basis that we've already clashed: during the cloud DC test, when hunting on Materia (JP/NA/EU all were fighting S ranks together literally), OCE have played on JP for years, and people make alts in eachother's regions (English players in JP, JP players on NA, and EU<>NA has always been a common crossover).
    Moving on,

    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    It might force them to use the game to incentivise social play.
    Premades should be for prog only. They should be disqualified from rewards totally. And reward drops should be way way way higher to compensate.
    Now everyone else starts to play like JP.
    Now you can turn travel on.
    I don't really see how this would affect any possible (and realistically nonexistent) culture clash at all.
    Regarding your complaints and thoughts about Chaotic and the games' reward structure in general, a different thread would be more suited towards them. This thread is about cross-region DC travel.
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