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    Quote Originally Posted by Kandraxx View Post
    The transmogs suffice for something that is zero skill and all memorization.

    If you want edge e fame go play an rts or real competitive game against real people.
    Comes from someone who probably never stepped a foot inside ultimates.
    Ultimates other than UwU still require some level of skill, with DSR and TOP being way harder and not clearable by every Johnny Twofinger on earth
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi View Post
    Comes from someone who probably never stepped a foot inside ultimates.
    Ultimates other than UwU still require some level of skill, with DSR and TOP being way harder and not clearable by every Johnny Twofinger on earth
    Ultimates doesn't require skill, only a lot of practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaKilala View Post
    Ultimates doesn't require skill, only a lot of practice.
    And how do you get skill if not without a lot of practice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    And how do you get skill if not without a lot of practice?
    memories not gonna lie they you just adapt the rotation to fit the fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    memories not gonna lie they you just adapt the rotation to fit the fight
    That's the skill requirement, and you only get that through Practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    That's the skill requirement, and you only get that through Practice.
    if you call that skill sure then I guess but as long as a fight is scripted in movement I will always say this is a memory games not a skill base game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    if you call that skill sure then I guess but as long as a fight is scripted in movement I will always say this is a memory games not a skill base game
    Whoever came up with the concept that raiding in FFXIV "is just a memory game" cursed this discussion to oblivion, might as well criticize it because it's a pattern recognition based game.

    Maybe this stupid idea that it's just a memory based game is why people have such a hard time adapting to M6S adds phase. When they have to do something they didn't memorize it all falls apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    if you call that skill sure then I guess but as long as a fight is scripted in movement I will always say this is a memory games not a skill base game
    Being able to memorize mechanics and rotations is a skill. Some learn it faster and clear savage and ultimates week 1 and some are stuck at titan jails in uwu for 6 months. Not everyone has the mental capacity to process and memorize fight mechanics and rotations within a couple pulls which is fine but saying Ultimates dont require any skill is a flat out lie.
    That being said... Why are you even talking about ultimate difficulty when no content you have cleared in DT goes past normal-raid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi View Post
    Comes from someone who probably never stepped a foot inside ultimates.
    Ultimates other than UwU still require some level of skill, with DSR and TOP being way harder and not clearable by every Johnny Twofinger on earth
    UWU is harder than DSR tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi View Post
    Comes from someone who probably never stepped a foot inside ultimates.
    Ultimates other than UwU still require some level of skill, with DSR and TOP being way harder and not clearable by every Johnny Twofinger on earth
    Hahahaha xD
    they dont require any skill tho you can do them blind once you did it a couple times
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