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    Blindheart's Avatar
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    Sesile Kokoro
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Do we know if our concerns about this content are even being looked at? I was curious if the Japanese peeps had the same issue but as far as I can tell their side of these forums is empty of new posts. Do only the English forums get much comments or do they post problems elsewhere? Or just don’t complain because of their culture?

    I’m mad about not being able to participate in any of this as I don’t have much free time for a bit and I have not done anything with my crafters or gatherers this expansion so by the time I can play this will all be over and all I’ll have is just the “final form” of the zone, and no real sense of progression like other content.
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    Rena Clock
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    Belias
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Blindheart View Post
    Do we know if our concerns about this content are even being looked at? I was curious if the Japanese peeps had the same issue but as far as I can tell their side of these forums is empty of new posts. Do only the English forums get much comments or do they post problems elsewhere? Or just don’t complain because of their culture?

    I’m mad about not being able to participate in any of this as I don’t have much free time for a bit and I have not done anything with my crafters or gatherers this expansion so by the time I can play this will all be over and all I’ll have is just the “final form” of the zone, and no real sense of progression like other content.
    Thats like complaining not being able to raid day one because you can't play on release date.
    This content is available from lv10 you can play NOW.
    We don't have a single buildings yet and if it took a day or more to build a transportation it wouldve been miserable....
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    Blindheart's Avatar
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Renaclock View Post
    Thats like complaining not being able to raid day one because you can't play on release date.
    This content is available from lv10 you can play NOW.
    We don't have a single buildings yet and if it took a day or more to build a transportation it wouldve been miserable....
    You don’t miss whole stages of combat if you’re not raiding on day one. This is supposed to be community content but how can I feel part of a community if it’s already complete before I can even make time to play?
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    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Adamantoise
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Blindheart View Post
    You don’t miss whole stages of combat if you’re not raiding on day one. This is supposed to be community content but how can I feel part of a community if it’s already complete before I can even make time to play?
    The reality is it's not community content at all.

    Do I feel part of the Adamantoise "community" if we fill a progress bar faster than Faerie? No, I'm just more likely to be asleep when something significant happens.

    Is there a "community spirit" in the construction and gathering areas? Not at all. DoL don't have time to chat even if they wanted to, the gaggle of crafters is indistinguishable from the Shaded Bower other than it's far uglier, and people running around pressing their one button in the FATEs is just a bit sad.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Blindheart View Post
    You don’t miss whole stages of combat if you’re not raiding on day one. This is supposed to be community content but how can I feel part of a community if it’s already complete before I can even make time to play?
    But that’s the thing the moon has FIFTEEN stages and even aether’s busiest servers are barely halfway through stage 3. That means there is 12 more “progression fates” for the moon

    Do people really think it can be balanced that every person can attend every one of the 15 40 minute fates

    Doing anything in cosmic right now is contributing to your servers progression. I’m not sure how people expect singular contribution to feel meaningful in server wide progression
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    But that’s the thing the moon has FIFTEEN stages and even aether’s busiest servers are barely halfway through stage 3. That means there is 12 more “progression fates” for the moon

    Do people really think it can be balanced that every person can attend every one of the 15 40 minute fates

    Doing anything in cosmic right now is contributing to your servers progression. I’m not sure how people expect singular contribution to feel meaningful in server wide progression
    It was SE's job to do that or just not have server progression in the first place after being told how much missing out on progression events sucks in the last one.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    It was SE's job to do that or just not have server progression in the first place after being told how much missing out on progression events sucks in the last one.
    You haven’t missed out on being able to progress, go progress now. There is still 12 more moon stages.
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    It was SE's job to do that or just not have server progression in the first place after being told how much missing out on progression events sucks in the last one.
    Which is something they even acknowledged during the LL, saying that it wouldn't be an issue with this.
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    Asane Paran
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    Shiva
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    It was SE's job to do that or just not have server progression in the first place after being told how much missing out on progression events sucks in the last one.

    The fate is a fate like any other, only takes 10x longer. Progression "event" takes 10 seconds and consist of camera moving around the base. If anything, it's extremely anticlimactic.

    Would it be cool to see it? Sure. I just think it's bizzare that people are so up in the arms about it.
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    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Guy Friedman
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    Halicarnassus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Regis_Paran View Post
    The fate is a fate like any other, only takes 10x longer. Progression "event" takes 10 seconds and consist of camera moving around the base. If anything, it's extremely anticlimactic.

    Would it be cool to see it? Sure. I just think it's bizzare that people are so up in the arms about it.
    It's just basic Fomo. It would've been better if it was tied to the person and not the whole. But it had to be the way it is. They should be mad that as content, it's boring as shit. I don't care that I missed setting up the teleporting. I care that it's just gambling at the end of the day. It's a thinly vailed Golden Saucer but tied to crafting and gathering. At least the Diadem had character. This is just leves with extra steps.
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