Why do casual players seem entitled to cosmetic items added in game?

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Also casual players don't have 50 million gil, so it being on the market board is irrelevant. It doesn't seem likely that it's going to be 100k any time soon.

So what's a causal player? I play on average 3-4 hours a night I will try and challenge myself with extremes, unreal, criterion and on occasions savage. But I dont have a static and I join random Pfs with friends I have 118mill as there's not much i want atm, but I would class myself as a casual player. In my opinion lately there has been more gil sink items on the MB and it's about time.

[CNitsah]

So what's a causal player? I play on average 3-4 hours a night I will try and challenge myself with extremes, unreal, criterion and on occasions savage. But I dont have a static and I join random Pfs with friends I have 118mill as there's not much i want atm, but I would class myself as a casual player. In my opinion lately there has been more gil sink items on the MB and it's about time.

4 hours a day is definitely not a casual. I would definitely classify you as a midcore player (and not midcore as a difficulty setting, as a lot of hardcore players like to define it).

[Absurdity]

4 hours a day is definitely not a casual. I would definitely classify you as a midcore player (and not midcore as a difficulty setting, as a lot of hardcore players like to define it).

That's where we run into problems though, because "casual" has come to mean two completely different things.
You got casual in terms of "time investment" and then casual in terms of "player skill" or I guess "willingness to challenge themselves".

You absolutely have people who, with conviction, consider themselves casual but spend 4-6 hours a day idling around in Limsa/Ul'dah or in one of those "venues", simply because they have never touched anything harder than Alliance Raid.
And then you have people who maybe play 8 hours a week but manage to clear some of the hardest content in the game, who also consider themselves casual.

[Mawlzy]

That's where we run into problems though, because "casual" has come to mean two completely different things.
You got casual in terms of "time investment" and then casual in terms of "player skill" or I guess "willingness to challenge themselves".

You absolutely have people who, with conviction, consider themselves casual but spend 4-6 hours a day idling around in Limsa/Ul'dah or in one of those "venues", simply because they have never touched anything harder than Alliance Raid.
And then you have people who maybe play 8 hours a week but manage to clear some of the hardest content in the game, who also consider themselves casual.

This thread would have been 1/5th the length had the title been "Why do non-raiders seem..." but that would have diluted the intentionally inflammatory semiotics.

[ConantSivrha]

So what's a causal player?

Subjective. But 3-4 hours daily + does high-end content + joined over a decade ago and has more than 1,700 posts on the game's official forums is a combination of traits that puts you solidly outside of most people's definitions of casual.

A lot of people on the forums call themselves "casual" when they really mean either "I don't do high-end content" or "I play for fun". Really, though, anyone who uses the forums is already in deep enough to not only seek out an out-of-game online community dedicated to XIV, but to also choose the Final Fantasy XIV Online Forums instead of (or in addition to) more mainstream social media sites that have their own sub-communities of XIV players (Reddit, Twitter, 4chan, etc). The vast majority of casual players will never end up here in the first place.

[Fawkes]

So what's a causal player? I play on average 3-4 hours a night I will try and challenge myself with extremes, unreal, criterion and on occasions savage. But I dont have a static and I join random Pfs with friends I have 118mill as there's not much i want atm, but I would class myself as a casual player. In my opinion lately there has been more gil sink items on the MB and it's about time.

The thread is about the hairstyle from chaotic, so in that context "casual" means people who don't do chaotic. That's how the OP used it so that's what it meant in my reply.

[PaulusHamsteru]

So what's a causal player? I play on average 3-4 hours a night I will try and challenge myself with extremes, unreal, criterion and on occasions savage. But I dont have a static and I join random Pfs with friends I have 118mill as there's not much i want atm, but I would class myself as a casual player. In my opinion lately there has been more gil sink items on the MB and it's about time.

Bro, you've been playing this for over a decade. You're anything but casual lol

[Zakuyia]

Bro, you've been playing this for over a decade. You're anything but casual lol

Bro legit answered his own question when ge asked what a casual is. 3-4 hours is a casual btw. Anything over 6+ hours is usually hardcore. Dawntrail cured me of that. I use to be able to play for like 8+ hours on the days i dont work 6 hours on the days I work XD

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Bro legit answered his own question when ge asked what a casual is. 3-4 hours is a casual btw. Anything over 6+ hours is usually hardcore. Dawntrail cured me of that. I use to be able to play for like 8+ hours on the days i dont work 6 hours on the days I work XD

Yes I would deem myself as casual that's what I was getting at to the OP earning 50 mill is not that difficult to the casual player. But the question of what is a causal player? as it varies from player to player. You only have to read the comments, over 6 hours +, someone who's played over a decade, 3-4 hours a night averaged out (i.e could play for 5-6 hours on sat + sun and then skip a couple of days) or someone who doesn't do savage etc.

And no if someone plays for 1 hour a week or every few weeks etc then they shouldnt be handed everything to them without work.

TL DR High-end content feels extremely intimidating and insurmountable for most casual players due to the perceived expectations placed on them. Therefore, they get sad that they are missing out on cosmetics that they feel like they cannot and will not ever get.

But they're not missing out it's just a matter of WHEN they get the item as eventually you out lvl the difficulty

[IndraSyngiwyb]

But they're not missing out it's just a matter of WHEN they get the item as eventually you out lvl the difficulty

You make a fair point, but when you see people NOW running around with something you want but you feel like you can't get, it's only natural to be bummed about it.

Btw, I'm not advocating for savage rewards to be handed over to people who don't do savage. I just have an issue with casual players being called "entitled" when it's far more likely that they are just sad that a pretty new cosmetic is locked behind something they feel is beyond their reach.

By all means, if you or anyone else finds someone demanding savage rewards without doing savage, point me in their direction and I'll laugh at them with you because that's just silly.