I cannot tolerate how repetitive post-ARR music is

[RenkoBernkastel]

Because it doesn't musically fit the city thematically considering it's meant to be inspired by south American Aztec culture and it plays smooth jazz that you would expect from a little coffee lounge or something that would play in an elevator. Tuliyollal music would be a better fit for solution 9 or to play in an inn room there.

It doesn't fit the buildings of the city. It fits the theme perfectly. Tulliyollal is the city that brings many different cultures together and makes them work. Jazz brings many different instruments together and makes them work. Wdym it doesn't fit the theme?

[Xieldras]

It doesn't fit the buildings of the city. It fits the theme perfectly. Tulliyollal is the city that brings many different cultures together and makes them work. Jazz brings many different instruments together and makes them work. Wdym it doesn't fit the theme?

But is Jazz truly the only type of music to bring different instruments together? I don't know, I heard folk concerts before bring out 4 or 5 different instruments.

If you close your eyes, you cannot tell at all that this is the musical theme of a South American-inspired location, Tulliyolal. That's the furthest thing from thematic cohesion because it completely breaks immersion and pulls the player out of the world.

[RenkoBernkastel]

But is Jazz truly the only type of music to bring different instruments together? I don't know, I heard folk concerts before bring out 4 or 5 different instruments.

If you close your eyes, you cannot tell at all that this is the musical theme of a South American-inspired location, Tulliyolal. That's the furthest thing from thematic coherence because it completely breaks immersion and pulls the player out of the world.

Idk what to tell you. It didn't break my immersion whatsoever. The theme actually intensified my immersion as I explored every nook and cranny of the city. Also, Latin Jazz exists, which is very close to Tulliyolals night theme.
Instead of pulling the "iT dOeSn'T fIt" card, you guys should just admit that you dislike jazz in general.


Edit to add: Doesn't matter either way. I think you guys are wrong, you guys think I am wrong. You dislike the themes, I'm in love with them. It's an argument that goes nowhere so this is my last response. Have a good one.

[Hallarem]

Idk what to tell you. It didn't break my immersion whatsoever. The theme actually intensified my immersion as I explored every nook and cranny of the city. Also, Latin Jazz exists, which is very close to Tulliyolals night theme.
Instead of pulling the "iT dOeSn'T fIt" card, you guys should just admit that you dislike jazz in general.


Edit to add: Doesn't matter either way. I think you guys are wrong, you guys think I am wrong. You dislike the themes, I'm in love with them. It's an argument that goes nowhere so this is my last response. Have a good one.

I agree, Smile was totally fitting with the bomb building scene and people are blind. It was meant to symbolize exploding with happiness, breaking barriers between people. Soken is an actual genius.


(I can do it too)

[Xieldras]

Idk what to tell you. It didn't break my immersion whatsoever. The theme actually intensified my immersion as I explored every nook and cranny of the city. Also, Latin Jazz exists, which is very close to Tulliyolals night theme.
Instead of pulling the "iT dOeSn'T fIt" card, you guys should just admit that you dislike jazz in general.

I do agree that the night theme is more pleasant and less agressive than the daylight theme, but still jarring. Frankly, I was expecting the instrumental Dawntrail theme to be the go-to in the musical genre for one of our main cities this expansion. You know, the one when they first showcased the expansion jobs. Drums, guitar, the hand clapping. I would've loved hearing new instruments too.

In the end, the themes we got for Tulliyolal sink the worldbuilding a tad lower

[Nebelheim]

It doesn't fit the buildings of the city. It fits the theme perfectly. Tulliyollal is the city that brings many different cultures together and makes them work. Jazz brings many different instruments together and makes them work. Wdym it doesn't fit the theme?

If soken wanted to do a jazz piece he should have went with Latin American jazz not New Orleans 1920's style big band/swing music which Latin jazz would have been more fitting considering dawntrail was suppose the be the South/Central American expansion which is why I said it doesn't fit tuliyolla thematically. They could have also done a full orchestral piece which would have brought more instrument together to musically represent a South American sound.