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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    Uematsu's work on the original XIV in particular is undervalued. The tracks work better as ambient noise, which is crucial when spending so much time in zones.
    Nobuo does pretty good at capturing the atmosphere of an area I consider Naoshi Mizuta the ff11 composer to also be pretty good at capturing the magic and atmosphere of a zone. I think soken is good and composed good music also but I feel dawntrails music all over the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    Nobuo does pretty good at capturing the atmosphere of an area I consider Naoshi Mizuta the ff11 composer to also be pretty good at capturing the magic and atmosphere of a zone. I think soken is good and composed good music also but I feel dawntrails music all over the place.
    I mean, this is the man who wrote "Aria Di Mezzo Carattere" for a SNES game (FFVI - Opera Scene), the guy more then deserves his acclaim. That opera piece never fails to move me to tears every time I hear it. This may be subjective but FFXIV does not to me, have any music that reaches that level of emotional quality. (With the exception of "Tomorrow and Tomorrow").

    Civilizations (La-hee) made me honestly not stop laughing in Shadowbringers, my friends were laughing at my reaction because I was like "Who Greenlit this!?". I can't decide if its one of the best or worst pieces in the game, purely for comedic value. I've never been a fan of semi-yodelling but I think some people are. To me it was just hilarious to listen to. Walking into the Greatwood was like complete tonal whiplash, it didn't really fit the environment either but I'm not sure where in Shadowbringers that piece would fit, it seemed completely random.

    I have to say, the waltz theme for Eulmore Daytime (Indulgence), still remains on of my favourite pieces in the game. Shadowbringers had such a good leitmotif in that expansion and the musical team got a lot of milage out of it. For me, that's when the music peaked for this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddwarbird View Post
    I mean, this is the man who wrote "Aria Di Mezzo Carattere" for a SNES game (FFVI - Opera Scene), the guy more then deserves his acclaim. That opera piece never fails to move me to tears every time I hear it. This may be subjective but FFXIV does not to me, have any music that reaches that level of emotional quality. (With the exception of "Tomorrow and Tomorrow").

    Civilizations (La-hee) made me honestly not stop laughing in Shadowbringers, my friends were laughing at my reaction because I was like "Who Greenlit this!?". I can't decide if its one of the best or worst pieces in the game, purely for comedic value. I've never been a fan of semi-yodelling but I think some people are. To me it was just hilarious to listen to. Walking into the Greatwood was like complete tonal whiplash, it didn't really fit the environment either but I'm not sure where in Shadowbringers that piece would fit, it seemed completely random.

    I have to say, the waltz theme for Eulmore Daytime (Indulgence), still remains on of my favourite pieces in the game. Shadowbringers had such a good leitmotif in that expansion and the musical team got a lot of milage out of it. For me, that's when the music peaked for this game.
    I also think shadowbringers was the last time ff14 music peaked with some decent music in endwalkers but dawntrail I was like why is the music all over the place. And I was like why would soken listen to ishikawa when she commissioned smile and wanting soken to make a musical style song and have it play when building a train bomb. But I also feel soken was covering up for a protege and taking the blame saying he came up with it so that people wouldn't hate on or question the next generation that he is training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    I also think shadowbringers was the last time ff14 music peaked with some decent music in endwalkers but dawntrail I was like why is the music all over the place. And I was like why would soken listen to ishikawa when she commissioned smile and wanting soken to make a musical style song and have it play when building a train bomb. But I also feel soken was covering up for a protege and taking the blame saying he came up with it so that people wouldn't hate on or question the next generation that he is training.
    They lean too heavily on some of the music that was created for Shadowbringers (and its DLC Endwalker) - it has actually kind of made ShB lose some identity I think. That music was iconic, and appropriate, and they have just continued to use it and use it and use it because... cheaper?

    SE is really struggling with identity these days - job identity, xpac identity, you name it, they are struggling with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    They lean too heavily on some of the music that was created for Shadowbringers (and its DLC Endwalker) - it has actually kind of made ShB lose some identity I think. That music was iconic, and appropriate, and they have just continued to use it and use it and use it because... cheaper?

    SE is really struggling with identity these days - job identity, xpac identity, you name it, they are struggling with it.
    They still look back at the success of ShB and are too risk averse to do anything but recycle portions of it, even if it makes it worse retroactively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    They lean too heavily on some of the music that was created for Shadowbringers (and its DLC Endwalker) - it has actually kind of made ShB lose some identity I think. That music was iconic, and appropriate, and they have just continued to use it and use it and use it because... cheaper?

    SE is really struggling with identity these days - job identity, xpac identity, you name it, they are struggling with it.
    They do seem to keep reusing certain music and story themes from past expansions. Like how many times do we need the last zone/dungeon of an expansion be a memory of some lost civilization or reuse the same dramatic cutscene music we been hearing since arr. Don't know why they keep recycling story ideas from shadowbringers and the same music for cutscenes for over 10 years.
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