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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enfarious View Post
    You know, and I may have just not seen them all, but, if classes locked (not jobs you can still mnk > pug > mnk and what have you) ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Enfarious View Post
    Now to argue a little on both sides cause I really enjoy that, job changing(not class) in dungeons seems resonable, it doesn't contribute horribly to class stacking but would allow PLD to tank, but run as GLA through the dungeon up to the boss so they aren't so gimpy.

    For all those that feel they're being slighted by the idea of locked classes/jobs and class stacking being discouraged, seriously are you so inflexible that if you can't run w/ war whm blmx6 you die, and if so why do you care who has what leveled, why for that matter have you bothered leveling more than those 3 jobs, getting told that because you can't be BLM you can't do content is f'in stupid. Encouraging that kind of bs is also stupid. I'm inclined to think that Yoshi and the devs aren't stupid and won't be bullied by a couple of players that feel like the above 2.

    Anyone that thinks the game was designed so that everyone would level everything really needs to look back on every other FF, including this one pre-PLing patch. Going 1~CAP in a week or less wasn't meant to happen, it was encouraged to allow ppl to experience content before it all goes away to bring in 2.0, it's going away again. Have a nice day.
    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    Whats funny you were against this.. now you seem to support it? should be in politics man..

    If you want to misconscrue that as crying then by all means do so.. I don't care what happens to the game, I really don't I'll accept the changes either way.. I have never cried and complained for something to be changed, I have only defended aspects already in place..

    So take my words out of context if you wish.. It don't matter..
    Where exactly did my position change that's my first and last posts about what I think on the note of class/job changing, maybe it's just me but it looks EXACTLY the same.

    Ok perhaps you don't mean to sound whiny, or perhaps after reading 60 other posts where people where whining about upcoming changes, mostly about war being "nerfed" everything sounds like whining now.

    Is "Oh they need to not change this thing cause I like it, and everyone who thinks it should be changed is stupidheads for not playing the way I want them to." not whiny?

    It's what I read, did you mean something else, should we all be able to enjoy the game as a single large community? Or do we all have to level every job because you did? In order to be accepted as a decent player do I have to play exactly like everyone else or can I perhaps have a play style different than others, yet equally effective?

    I do apologize though if I mistook what you meant, I've no problem admitting when I'm wrong and if this is one of those times then I'm good with that.
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  2. #52
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    I truly didn't mean to come off whiny Enfarious, sorry if I did sound it lol, I am at work on a saturday and these forums make me bitter lol..

    I want a single large community, where everyone is viable for content whether you have only one job or not.. I just like versatility I suppose, having more people together with multiple jobs appeals more to me then some people who don't, but I know I shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush of "Level everything" so I am trying not to do so...

    I dont think I called anyone stupidheads, but yes that is whiny sounding lol.. I am all for everyone being happy, and I do wish content was balanced for everyone.. my argument is just that I like to be able to switch jobs mid dungeon etc, I leveled it so I feel I have the right to, now if someone only has 1 job then ofc they can't switch, I just enjoy doing so that is all...

    I know I may have come off a lil strong on my opinion, and will take in account of others opinions as well..
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    Last edited by SynysterBlitz; 04-29-2012 at 12:39 AM.

  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    I truly didn't mean to come off whiny Enfarious, sorry if I did sound it lol, I am at work on a saturday and these forums make me bitter lol..

    I want a single large community, where everyone is viable for content whether you have only one job or not.. I just like versatility I suppose, having more people together with multiple jobs appeals more to me then some people who don't, but I know I shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush of "Level everything" so I am trying not to do so...

    I dont think I called anyone stupidheads, but yes that is whiny sounding lol.. I am all for everyone being happy, and I do wish content was balanced for everyone.. my argument is just that I like to be able to switch jobs mid dungeon etc, I leveled it so I feel I have the right to, now if someone only has 1 job then ofc they can't switch, I just enjoy doing so that is all...

    I know I may have come off a lil strong on my opinion, and will take in account of others opinions as well..
    I know how ya feel in the forums make me bitter dept. I don't know how often I get all rabid and ranty after 20~30 posts of ppl bitching about something and I tend to just kinda attack things at that point from time to time.
    We're all only human here after all aren't we ^^

    I'm glad to see that your actually on a page similar to myself, even if we didn't exactly start out on a great foot.

    Edit: oops I always forget that all my old +reply clicks stick on these forums for weeks on end lol
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    Last edited by Enfarious; 04-29-2012 at 11:29 AM. Reason: Wow

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  4. #54
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    next you will ask for only one war and one whm in hamlet?
    just lvl all your jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibian View Post
    One of the largest problems with balancing FFXIV right now is the exclusions of classes/jobs in dungeons due to their lack of function to achieve speed runs.
    THIS not class changing is the problem but SPEED RUNS and the chest you only get with speed runs.
    Well and the bad balancing between classes
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green_and_a_Half View Post
    next you will ask for only one war and one whm in hamlet?
    just lvl all your jobs
    That's the ticket, oh wait maybe not all of them just the ones that people like, cause playing the game in a way you enjoy, on the jobs you like best shouldn't really be a concern for you. Just do what others want that's why your playing.

    People want to be able to choose to play what ever they want, with in reason of course, being shunned by the community at large because I want to do things on DRG, hamlet being whm war only, these are the things people don't want anymore.

    Jobs, if balanced well, would make them all desirable in all content and then play style and skill become something that's looked at rather than, "Do you have thm/blm? mrd/war? cnj/whm? no on all 3 sorry I don't need you. Yeah I know I'm 1/8 and you could fill in 1 of the remaining 7 slots but what good is a mnk/drg/pld?"

    I left brd out because it'll get accepted for things once war whm and a few blms have been grabbed, but it's not top of the list for much.
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