SE: Please tone it down a hair

[Preypacer]

agreed ^^^

I agree that they did a great job with the dialog overall.

My main gripe with it is I think it's being spread a bit too much to different characters. The only people I find to speak in a manner that indicates who they are or where they're from, are the pirate folk from LL. However, even among people in LL, there's still NPCs who speak with an eloquence or flourish that is not typical of that area, yet they're supposed to be from there. It just seems kind of jarring when you find a supposed pirate speaking in alliterations and using more complex words.

It's not that I can't understand what they're saying. It's that in many cases I've seen, it seems completely out of character.

In FFXI, each race had a distinct way of speaking that made them stand out immediately. People from San d'Oria spoke in an overall consistent way. Mithra spoke in a consistent manner (the "rrrrrrr"'s in their speech being a good example, among several). Tarus tended to be more alliterative or rhyming in their speech. Galka tended to be generally rather harsh and blunt in their speech... and so forth.

I don't see that as much in XIV. It seems more arbitrary. I see NPCs of all races speaking like you'd expect a Taru to. I see Lalafell speaking in a manner of ways. It just makes it difficult to establish any kind of collective personality or behavior for any one of the races, at least for me.

So, I guess in a nutshell, while I'm fine with the way some NPCs talk, I think I'd like to see it applied and used more consistently in the future.

That said, what the hell is going on in your signature pic, fusional? I mean, I can tell it's a spoof on something, but is that from some kind of DJ concert or something?

[fusional]

In FFXI, each race had a distinct way of speaking that made them stand out immediately. People from San d'Oria spoke in an overall consistent way. Mithra spoke in a consistent manner (the "rrrrrrr"'s in their speech being a good example, among several). Tarus tended to be more alliterative or rhyming in their speech. Galka tended to be generally rather harsh and blunt in their speech... and so forth.

I don't see that as much in XIV. It seems more arbitrary. I see NPCs of all races speaking like you'd expect a Taru to. I see Lalafell speaking in a manner of ways. It just makes it difficult to establish any kind of collective personality or behavior for any one of the races, at least for me.

That said, what the hell is going on in your signature pic, fusional? I mean, I can tell it's a spoof on something, but is that from some kind of DJ concert or something?

well, i think the idea in ffxi was that all (or most) of race X came from city/region Y, so no matter where you encountered them their speech patterns were the same, as they were basically just traveling away from home. it was more consistent, but also a bit homogenized. i think it was just their way of reinforcing the idea of nationalism, since the 3 nations did compete for top honors.

in ffxiv it seems they're taking a more 'realistic' approach, where people from city/region Y predominantly speak in the manner appropriated to that place, regardless of race. all the races are spread out everywhere and nationalism can still be found, but it has more to do with your grand company than it does with race origins. ul'dah NPCs tend to be more frank and streetwise, gridanians more eloquent and thoughtful, and limsans talk like pirates- regardless of race. i think this speaks more to how a person who has been in a region for a long enough time will start to pick up the dialect, even if they (or their ancestors) originated from elsewhere.

just my 2 cents. but either way, i'm fine with it. it doesn't even bother me that louisoix talks so damned much. it just sucks that you have to suffer through the same long-winded speech every. single. time. you complete one of the repeatable primal quests. okay, first time is fine. i'm happy to read. but when i'm repeating the quest, don't make me mash enter. it just makes you care less about the dialogue, and that's counterproductive.

as far as my sig, lol. it's making fun of Skrillex.

[Preypacer]

well, i think the idea in ffxi was that all (or most) of race X came from city/region Y, so no matter where you encountered them their speech patterns were the same, as they were basically just traveling away from home. it was more consistent, but also a bit homogenized. i think it was just their way of reinforcing the idea of nationalism, since the 3 nations did compete for top honors.

in ffxiv it seems they're taking a more 'realistic' approach, where people from city/region Y predominantly speak in the manner appropriated to that place, regardless of race. all the races are spread out everywhere and nationalism can still be found, but it has more to do with your grand company than it does with race origins. ul'dah NPCs tend to be more frank and streetwise, gridanians more eloquent and thoughtful, and limsans talk like pirates- regardless of race. i think this speaks more to how a person who has been in a region for a long enough time will start to pick up the dialect, even if they (or their ancestors) originated from elsewhere.

just my 2 cents. but either way, i'm fine with it. it doesn't even bother me that louisoix talks so damned much. it just sucks that you have to suffer through the same long-winded speech every. single. time. you complete one of the repeatable primal quests. okay, first time is fine. i'm happy to read. but when i'm repeating the quest, don't make me mash enter. it just makes you care less about the dialogue, and that's counterproductive.

as far as my sig, lol. it's making fun of Skrillex.

Yeah I'd considered that angle as well. I still see a lot of inconsistency in it, though. I don't remember which they were as I've spoken to many, but I'll see NPCs in LL, for example, that seem to be from there, but yet talk like they're from Gridania. That's what I mean by consistency.

As for the Skrillex thing. Never heard of him before, so I had to look him up. He kinda looks like Corey Feldman.

[Giit]

...as far as my sig, lol. it's making fun of Skrillex.

I lmfao every time i see that sig!"